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Second Captains

ballsymchugh

Thought I'd update the OP with links and stuff for anyone who stumbles across this.

The former Off the Ball hosts have partnered with The Irish Times to do a series of weekly podcasts. They go online each Tuesday and cover a variety of sports, with a number of contributors including Sid Lowe, Richie Sadlier, Gerry Thornley and Shane Horgan.

They can be found:
On The Irish Times' site: http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/second-captains
On Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/secondcaptains-it-com
On iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/second-captains-irish-times/id647893016?mt=2

Or if you prefer not to use iTunes for your podcasts, use this link in whatever app you use (Thanks to youcancallmeal): http://feeds.feedburner.com/secondcaptainsitcom

And here are their Twitter and Facebook accounts.

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wnolan1992

so they're almost finished their gardening leave...

where will they end up?

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EltonJohn69

Troy parrot is not Messi.... he is nowhere near the level of Kane..... Ken and co. need to chill out.....

Arghus

Ken's Jose fixation is starting to reassert itself.

Loafing Oaf

Cienciano wrote: »

Ken delighted Spurs are doing bad, an excuse to rip into Jose again. I love it tbh, long may it continue

Yeah classic Mou-bashing: "I was disappointed with the goal we conceded because we spent half an hour in training working on defensive throw-ins". First of all what an interesting training session that sounds...

Although Mourinho is almost a parody of himself these days, nearly went full Ron Manager in that press conference: "Jordan Henderson...
Wijnaldum...erm...Oxlade...intensity...difficult..."

p.s. that Xavi for Barca piece hasn't aged well...

Arghus

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Yeah classic Mou-bashing: "I was disappointed with the goal we conceded because we spent half an hour in training working on defensive throw-ins". First of all what an interesting training session that sounds...

Although Mourinho is almost a parody of himself these days, nearly went full Ron Manager in that press conference: "Jordan Henderson...
Wijnaldum...erm...Oxlade...intensity...difficult..."

p.s. that Xavi for Barca piece hasn't aged well...

It was already out of date by that evening. Just makes you realise, again, that so much of what football journos talk about - especially the mystic Meg type nonsense that seems to be a defining feature of all talk about Spanish football - is complete BS.

Beersmith

Why hasn't it aged well? Thought xavi turned it down and will take it a later timepoint. No harm in talking about would he be a future good fit etc.

Loafing Oaf

Beersmith wrote: »

Why hasn't it aged well? Thought xavi turned it down and will take it a later timepoint. No harm in talking about would he be a future good fit etc.

Maybe I wasn't listening properly:o I thought the insinuation was Barca would install a caretaker and Xavi would take over in the summer...

corwill

Interesting chat with Ronnie Close re Egypt. Can't shake the feeling that Ronnie found Ken irritating, I thought detected some tetch.

hankless

I don't think the Xavi story has aged badly. Barca would absolutely take him if he was willing. That new guy is hardly a long-term solution for them. They'll do whatever Messi tells them to!

corwill

hankless wrote: »

They'll do whatever Messi tells them to!

Which is why, as they noted on the pod, why Xavi is leaving it alone for now.

Arghus

corwill wrote: »

Interesting chat with Ronnie Close re Egypt. Can't shake the feeling that Ronnie found Ken irritating, I thought detected some tetch.

Didn't notice that myself.

I will say to move to Egypt to take up a new job in 2012 must require balls of industrial steel.

corwill

Arghus wrote: »

I will say to move to Egypt to take up a new job in 2012 must require balls of industrial steel.

And to be there 8 years later and have written that book, he's a lot hardier than me.

Cienciano

corwill wrote: »

Interesting chat with Ronnie Close re Egypt. Can't shake the feeling that Ronnie found Ken irritating, I thought detected some tetch.

I normally like interviews like that but for some reason I found this unbelievably boring and I kept tuning out, ended up skipping it.

jones

I thought the Egypt chat was weird - clearly a bad place to live (dystonian almost) but your man stays there anyway and he couldn't even say why he was staying he just was. Just seemed a bit "off" to me. I too found myself drifting on it and i usually love the political episodes.

thenightman

'Migs' is a suitably cringeworthy nickname for a gob****e like Miguel!

Seamy Fitz

Give me the Egypt chat over Mourinho yawn fest any day! I thought Ronnie gave a fascinating insight into a totalitarian state. This is something SC does so well.

jones wrote: »

I thought the Egypt chat was weird - clearly a bad place to live (dystonian almost) but your man stays there anyway and he couldn't even say why he was staying he just was. Just seemed a bit "off" to me. I too found myself drifting on it and i usually love the political episodes.

Beersmith

I listened after reading the comments about him resenting Ken. Tried to listen for it but couldn't detect it at all. Obviously a strange fellow is he is choosing to live there. Good chat all the same

corwill

Beersmith wrote: »

I listened after reading the comments about him resenting Ken. Tried to listen for it but couldn't detect it at all. Obviously a strange fellow is he is choosing to live there. Good chat all the same

Yerra, I might well have imagined it.

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corwill wrote: »

Yerra, I might well have imagined it.

Yerra too many shkelps to the head boy! Head to paidi's for a drop of the pure!

Sorry. Can't sleep.

CiaranW

I can't wait to hear US Murph talk about the 49ers now.
I am not being sarcastic just in case, I think US Murph is excellent and I am looking forward to hearing his positivity and enthusiasm on it, we need more of this in our lives.

Arghus

Maybe I momentarily lost consciousness because Garry Ringrose was so delightfully polite, well spoken and boring, but did the boys just abruptly fade out his interview as he was in the middle of talking about something on Friday?

Cienciano

CiaranW wrote: »

I can't wait to hear US Murph talk about the 49ers now.
I am not being sarcastic just in case, I think US Murph is excellent and I am looking forward to hearing his positivity and enthusiasm on it, we need more of this in our lives.

Yeah, the 49ers hype train is in full flow, hopefully they win it too.

Cienciano

"Can I suggest the exact moment you start rooting for Roy Keane was when he mentioned Frank Lampard". Classic from Murph there

In fairness to Roy, it was a good point about Lampard.

Arghus

Ken is loving referencing Tolstoy these days.

corwill

Cienciano wrote: »

In fairness to Roy, it was a good point about Lampard.

His only good one, mind. The rest of it boiled down to "I (a failed manager, incidentally) think that failing managers, especially ones I'm friends with, should be extended patience for indeterminate periods of time, but not less than two years, in any event."

Arghus

Roy was talking complete shyte and the Lampard stuff was deflection.

Ole is Roy's buddy, Roy is never going to go hard on him. That's 100% what it boils down to.

Everything else about United is worthy of blame for Roy: the players, the board, the agents, the transfer policy, every previous manager, even the fans from time to time, but the current manager is surrounded by this magical protective bubble that saves him from Roy's ire. It's hilarious how transparent it is.

Though his skill in absolutely dominating an argument like a verbal machine gun, even when completely wrong, is very impressive - and he was obviously holding back. Imagine what he's like when he's in the right and has facts to back his arguments.

Cienciano

No way is Ole qualified. We all know Keane is defending his mate. But he went into that argument with his ace in the hole back up point about Lampard knowing he'd get to use it and he used it perfectly. Carragher walked straight into the trap!

But I still don't agree with him but I think his whole mannerism and way of arguing is fúcking hilarious to listen to.

LineOfBeauty

Cienciano wrote: »

No way is Ole qualified. We all know Keane is defending his mate. But he went into that argument with his ace in the hole back up point about Lampard knowing he'd get to use it and he used it perfectly. Carragher walked straight into the trap!

But I still don't agree with him but I think his whole mannerism and way of arguing is fúcking hilarious to listen to.

I don't know how much merit Keane's argument really had from a football POV but, like you say, going in there with the Lampard card up his sleeve, knowing he's Sky's boy (and Sky's cosy relationship with Lampard's family in Harry and Jamie Redknapp) and luring Carragher in until he draws out the Lampard and flings it at Jamie was football punditry gold.

corwill

Wait a sec, people think Keane came away from that having gained something from it or somehow 'won' the argument? I thought he made an even bigger eejit of himself than usual, but that's just me.

There is a fair amount of entertainment value from the sense that, someday, someone might say something that finally triggers him into swinging for someone else in the studio. I mean, it would be pretty hilarious, as long as no one comes to any lasting harm.

lawred2

corwill wrote: »

Wait a sec, people think Keane came away from that having gained something from it or somehow 'won' the argument? I thought he made an even bigger eejit of himself than usual, but that's just me.

There is a fair amount of entertainment value from the sense that, someday, someone might say something that finally triggers him into swinging for someone else in the studio. I mean, it would be pretty hilarious, as long as no one comes to any lasting harm.

The whole 'debate' sounded moronic

Arghus

Ah, no, of course Keane didn't win the argument but he got as a far as a man could get on pure guff.