blanch152 wrote: » It's not working at the moment. Tried it with your link, and then tried again from google and it was offline.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I do find these posts amusing ' I wasn't going to vote for FG, or I was undecided but when I look at others'. Seriously potential voters have seen the mess in housing/ health but think yes FG are the best option after 9 years of things in these areas getting worse.
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » None of those reflects FG policy. Bailey has been deselected for example. If you want to be properly outraged then put Lowry at the top of your list just like the people of Tipperary will. Can't go for FF on your example otherwise it's confining P. Flynn's struggle with 3 houses. Nor ST because of Ferris.
road_high wrote: » On balance when you look at the alternatives FG are a forgone conclusion. The problems are far more nuanced than the likes of SF paint and the dearth of any solutions bar spend more of our money are telling. The opposition have nothing to offer and as said already why risk ones job abs the economy and the vague notion they’ll be better (when there’s absolutely no coherent evidence to say they would be- in the case of FF clear evidence of how they actually would be)
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Ah yes I remember Kenny et Al telling us in 2016 there is no alternative I believe Howlin was parroting Kenny aswell. They were right ,oh wait..
road_high wrote: » And FG were returned to government- what’s your point? He was proven right
thequarefellow wrote: » The homeless 'crisis' is a sham. A storm whipped up by the media and housing charities hell bent on keeping their staff securely employed. Do we have homeless people? Of course we do and we always will but the issues are nothing like those that are being portrayed.
McMurphy wrote: » FG candidates will undoubtedly run with the same mantra so.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » The claim at the time, which you choose to ignore was that there was no alternative to FG/Lab. They were clearly wrong. Plus FG only spent the last 4 years in office at the will of FF. Kenny did a deal with FF just to secure a legacy nothing more.
ELM327 wrote: » My main issue with the greens is that they don't work for non central dublin people. They assume we can all cycle to work. I live ~70km from work (each way) and currently drive an EV. No way would I cycle or take public transport. And I don't want to vote in any fool who would propose I should.
Clarence Boddiker wrote: » If you're unlucky enough to live in a rural area the Greens will expect you to share a car with ten other families, as Eamonn Ryan proposed recently. Absolute Lunacy.https://www.broadsheet.ie/2019/10/09/it-takes-a-village-3/https://www.oceanfm.ie/2019/10/10/green-party-not-anti-rural-ireland-ryan-defends-village-car-pooling-proposal/https://www.oceanfm.ie/2019/10/10/green-party-not-anti-rural-ireland-ryan-defends-village-car-pooling-proposal/
KWAG2019 wrote: » FG line is well established: there is no alternative. There will always be problems in HSE and they’re insoluble. There will always be problems with homelessness. We’ve achieved great success in economy. Unless there is a big swing back to FF from FG by older voters who lent their vote in 2011 it’s difficult to see a govt without FG or FG c&s.
Cork Boy 53 wrote: » IMO if FF get into government it will only be with the support of FG. Martin will do a deal with FG to avoid being the only FF leader never to be Taoiseach.
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » Car sharing is going to be the future particularly with advances in self driving capability. Already applications of it such as goCar in Dublin.
road_high wrote: » Well if there were Alternatives what and who were they? I seem to recall SF ran into the opposition benches ASAP and made no effort to form a coalition- no surprises there and guarantee they’ll do the exact same next month too. I don't give SF a vote, but have you missed where FF and FG have already ruled out engaging with SF. Hardly SF running for the opposition benches if neither of the two larger parties are willing to deal with them. Grown ups do realise you need a functioning government regardless of the fact it’s easier sit back and oppose everyone else. There is no alternative as the last election so clearly illustrated
thequarefellow wrote: » Yes Eamonn Ryan needs to go if the Green party are to have any hope. FF should have replaced Meehawl too. Even if just for the optics. Too many ties to the Bertie days.
jimmycrackcorm wrote: » The deal with FF was not an alternative. We simply didn't get a strong enough government via a supply and confidence agreement.
Clarence Boddiker wrote: » Agreed, I'm a former Green voter but some in the party have gone off the deep end entirely. They need to dial it back.
