Plumbthedepths wrote: » So anonymous poster on Boards claim there is no housing crisis yet government and other state agencies accepts there is.
pjohnson wrote: » Also called spot the diehard FG voters.
is_that_so wrote: » Yeah like the anonymous poster above who used one example to prove there was. Welcome to the interweb,where no-one knows your name or state of mind!
ELM327 wrote: » There is no homeless crisis. There is no housing crisis. There is a cohort of people living on the street, despite beds being available in hostels, due to addiction issues. There is also a "crisis" of not getting a free forever home next to mummy. Neither of these are, or should be, the responsibility of any government
ELM327 wrote: » Anonymous poster disagrees with other anonymous poster and states vague anonymous claim. This is a discussion forum. Were you expecting something else? A facsimile from the prussian consulate in siam?
McMurphy wrote: » Perhaps I'm confusing you with another poster, but you previously dismissed Leo's claims that FF left the country bankrupt, and now you're dismissing his govts claim (and funds set aside) that there's a housing crisis. Leo and FG are liars is essentially what you're saying, have I got you - yeah?
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Problem for you though is you are making a claim that is contrary even to what the government accepts. The party you support also accepts there is a housing and homeless crisis. Just pointing out the absurdity of your claim, no more no less.
ELM327 wrote: » You are absolutely confusing me with another poster. FF left the country in a terrible state, on the verge of bankruptcy until the IMF were sent in, and it took 3 years of FG governance and fiscal control to right the mess.
ELM327 wrote: » That's interesting, our country was not bankrupted. We are now one of the better performing economies in Europe - where IT/DE etc are teetering on the brink of recession.
Augeo wrote: » Unfortunately politics is a game of playing to the crowd to a large extent. Neither Leo or MM will say that there is no homeless crisis, they know well that the housing list is full of wasters who spend their dole on cans and betting dockets etc as well as genuine cases. It's practically impossible to help all the genuine cases as the wasters are gaming the system. The likes of Margaret Cash are actually deemed to be a non waster and deserving of a forever home at the states expense (largely) despite having seemingly fookloads of disposable income. It's an unsolvable problem, if the entire current crop of homeless folk were housed in forever homes tomorrow there'd be thousands more on a new list on Friday.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » It's widely accepted that 2 thirds of the necessary adjustments were made before FF left office ( I know arsonist helping put out the fire). All FG had to do was follow the agreement made between the FF/Green government and the Troika.
McMurphy wrote: » Ahem.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/08/world/europe/housing-crisis-ireland.html Even outside of Ireland it is being recognised. Btw the emoji, are you a ten year old?
Augeo wrote: » Water charges were only a problem as those on the scratch were expected to pay. If there was a clause that does on SW did not have to pay for their usage unless it was excessive there would have been no problem. Working folk know that we have to pay a certain % of our income in various taxes, the % changes as the economic and political climate changes but it is what it is. FG made the mistake of forgetting that those who don't contribute really, really don't contribute, at all. They should have just put in the clause and not increased the dole next time around to compensate, win win.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » Record employment as a result of being a very open economy heavily dependent on FDI and exports and a direct consequence of the global economy doing better in the last few years. I and others have said this several times.
_Kaiser_ wrote: » Why anyone would vote for more of the same from FG after the last few years especially (when despite the recovering economy they've managed to make core services and issues worse) is beyond me.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Lazy generalisation tbh.
is_that_so wrote: » Nobody suggested there are no issues but said poster used it as a one-liner to prove a point firmly lodged within their own belief structure and obvious evidence of what they believe. It's actually DCC and the 150+ housing advocacy groups that have the remit to look after it and it's a very complicated area.
Mortelaro wrote: » Whilst it's not the majority,it seems to me to be an unpoliced large chunk One of the pubs in my local area is packed on dole day,pints ordered whilst half the clientele go to the betting shop and a lot of them bet on their smartphones minding the pints This is in the middle of the day I happened to go in there to collect a parcel and witnessed this but it's well known Only in Ireland, the land of the hand out I pity the families tbh
pjohnson wrote: » I posted it because the basic fact is a homeless person died. I dont know what belief nonsense you are on about but sticking with facts. Someone claimed as a FACT there is no homeless crisis after the FACT that a homeless person died.
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I love these stories, have you any more? I bet you saw a lad with two pints in his hands aswell.
2020Vision wrote: » So what you're actually saying there is that the homeless suffer from mortality, just like we homed folk do? Are you shocked by this?
