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Anyone give two fingers anymore?

Biodegradable

Or is it always just one finger now? the middle finger. This first photo I've attached was the moment before Father Byrne gave Ted two fingers! This was how I did it as a youngster in school.

The original meaning of the two fingers had something to do with the fact that archers in Britain used these two fingers to fire their arrow.

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TuringBot47

Biodegradable wrote: »

Anyone give two fingers anymore?

Only during foreplay.

Cee-Jay-Cee

I use the middle finger...for things.

corner of hells

Biodegradable wrote: »

Or is it always just one finger now? the middle finger. This first photo I've attached was the moment before Father Byrne gave Ted two fingers! This was how I did it as a youngster in school.

The original meaning of the two fingers had something to do with the fact that archers in Britain used these two fingers to fire their arrow.

British Archers used stick two fingers up to the French soldiers.
However if the French caught them , they used chop their fingers off.
Apparently to train a long bow archer could take up to ten years.

buried

Engerland football club fans do it a lot. It seems to be a message to the referee to extend the injury time to another two minutes.

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Ipso

corner of hells wrote: »

British Archers used stick two fingers up to the French soldiers.
However if the French caught them , they used chop their fingers off.
Apparently to train a long bow archer could take up to ten years.

Supposedly after their victory at Agincourt, the English archers waved the two fingers at the French.

Quantum Erasure

I've taken to doing it Eminem-style, with the index and ring fingers only half bent

Thelonious Monk

No, it was all the rage when i were a lad. Its a shame flipping the bird (urgh) is more de rigeuer now.

Die Hard 2019

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

I've taken to doing it Eminem-style, with the index and ring fingers only half bent

That's not Eminem style it's simply how it was always done .

Stewball

I usually go with the wanker gesture.

Capt'n Midnight

corner of hells wrote: »

Apparently to train a long bow archer could take up to ten years.

Oh no, it's nowhere near that quick

"If you want to train a longbowman, start with his grandfather."

The distorted skeletons of bowmen attest to the just how much training it takes to get good.

It wasn't until the middle of the 19th century that firearms could match the rate of fire of a good archer. The reason they were used was you could train conscripts to use a rifle in a fraction of the time.

fryup

Churchill used to do it during WWII, as a sign for V for Victory

(*i wonder when it became offensive?)

Edgware

The good old Harvey Smith sign.

Harry Palmr

Just a sign (!) of the Americanising of culture on this blowey archipelago

Ubbquittious

Can't afford a second finger anymore after the 1994 cod collapse. If one were to give a second one it would be made entirely of breadcrumbs

[Deleted User]

fryup wrote: »

Churchill used to do it during WWII, as a sign for V for Victory

(*i wonder when it became offensive?)

Maybe around the time CJH used it to tell the Irish public what he really thought of them.

tuxy

Biodegradable wrote: »

The original meaning of the two fingers had something to do with the fact that archers in Britain used these two fingers to fire their arrow.

corner of hells wrote: »

British Archers used stick two fingers up to the French soldiers.
However if the French caught them , they used chop their fingers off.
Apparently to train a long bow archer could take up to ten years.

This is one of those things you hear or read about and think it's funny but no one could actually believe it, right?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pluck-yew/

Ipso

tuxy wrote: »

This is one of those things you hear or read about and think it's funny but no one could actually believe it, right?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pluck-yew/

Another article I read claimed it was possible. Supposedly archers came in for some bad punishment, they inflicted a lot of casualties on the French during the hundred years war.

Duckworth_Luas

Churchill picked up the "V for victory" signal from resistance groups on the continent.

However, he originally displayed it with his palm inwards, not knowing that this was an offensive gesture to the British working classes.

After this was explained to him he began to use the familiar palm outwards version.

tuxy

Ipso wrote: »

Another article I read claimed it was possible. Supposedly archers came in for some bad punishment, they inflicted a lot of casualties on the French during the hundred years war.

All actual reports of the time were that captured archers were executed, so probably no need to mutilate their fingers.

jaxxx

Why give two, when one will do

Capt'n Midnight

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

Churchill picked up the "V for victory" signal from resistance groups on the continent.

However, he originally displayed it with his palm inwards, not knowing that this was an offensive gesture to the British working classes.

Mar dhea :rolleyes:

Bismark introduced pensions in German in 1889 or those over 70.
Life expectancy was 72. Lower if you were working class.

Them boys knew exactly what they were doing.

Hangdogroad

Die Hard 2019 wrote: »

That's not Eminem style it's simply how it was always done .

Always done where? Only started seeing those kind of gang sign hand gestures with the advent of gangsta rap.

Still waters

One in the pink and one in the stink

Quantum Erasure

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Always done where? Only started seeing those kind of gang sign hand gestures with the advent of gangsta rap.

yeah, this is how i used to do it, always seen it done

[Deleted User]

Yankees flip the bird.

EmmetSpiceland

My favourite example of the two finger “salute” comes from Robin Friday.

Quantum Erasure

Deleted User wrote: »

Yankees flip the bird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi05rHk9UEQ

[Deleted User]

In China, it's considered a peace symbol. :pac: (and not the back hand sign)