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Election called for Saturday 8 February

Thelonious Monk

Can't see a thread on this. That's pretty soon huh? I hope people vote anything but FF/FG. Why not do something different for a change?

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Water John

Martin in an excellent campaigner, so was Kenny despite media blips.

is_that_so

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

So who will you vote for. Genuine question.

For the first time in my life I may have to abstain. Does anyone else feel the same way?

I think you need to look at what's on offer locally and who you'd be OK with. It's been my approach for a good few elections.

lawred2

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

So who will you vote for. Genuine question.

For the first time in my life I may have to abstain. Does anyone else feel the same way?

Well one thing is for sure - a FG/FF manifesto isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

Itssoeasy

Millionaire only not wrote: »

I think we’re hitting for a hung Dail !
There’s no clear runner or stand out party to make a good run at it !

Based on what ? I agree it's going to be a mess but not that bad that there isn't some outcome that we as a country get a functioning government with the numbers somewhere near the magic number of 80.

2020Vision

I wonder will Mad Dog McDowell run. He could upset both FF and FG in Dublin Bay South if he did.

is_that_so

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I think Leo's self absorbed image and Dublin focus will hurt him. Remember that the party membership wanted Coveney as leader. Coveney did himself no favours tonight either.

Martin has been around the block a few times. If they can capitalise on the poor performance by FG on key issues then I think he'll be in the driving seat after the 8th.

Is Martin a good enough campaigner? I know he does well in debates but I don't know he can follow the line that doesn't get FF into a "what about 2010?" jibe. They may need to depend on FG making a hash of their own campaign and they've got form there.

lawred2

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I think Leo's self absorbed image and Dublin focus will hurt him. Remember that the party membership wanted Coveney as leader. Coveney did himself no favours tonight either.

Martin has been around the block a few times. If they can capitalise on the poor performance by FG on key issues then I think he'll be in the driving seat after the 8th.

His Dublin focus?

Where is that in evidence?

Itssoeasy

2020Vision wrote: »

Pretty dumb you mean!

Bare faced lied about voting for absent colleagues in Dáil votes until the video evidence was produced and she had to confess. And she's being put forward as the young fresh face of "FF nua"! Old wine in new bottles.

Rising star is the phrase used on late debate on RTÉ radio 1 just now.

saabsaab

Where are the manifestos? To make an impact with the electorate a party has to stop playing it safe and come up with a popular game changer!

Spanish Eyes

So who will you vote for. Genuine question.

For the first time in my life I may have to abstain. Does anyone else feel the same way?

is_that_so

Millionaire only not wrote: »

I think we’re hitting for a hung Dail !
There’s no clear runner or stand out party to make a good run at it !

Looks pretty much as you were at this point. Could be May by the time we get a new government!

2020Vision

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Only for she’s pretty she’d be putting up the posters I’d say !

Pretty dumb you mean!

Bare faced lied about voting for absent colleagues in Dáil votes until the video evidence was produced and she had to confess. And she's being put forward as the young fresh face of "FF nua"! Old wine in new bottles.

_Kaiser_

Millionaire only not wrote: »

I think we’re hitting for a hung Dail !
There’s no clear runner or stand out party to make a good run at it !

I think Leo's self absorbed image and Dublin focus will hurt him. Remember that the party membership wanted Coveney as leader. Coveney did himself no favours tonight either.

Martin has been around the block a few times. If they can capitalise on the poor performance by FG on key issues then I think he'll be in the driving seat after the 8th.

is_that_so

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Pitiful digs at each other.

That's an Irish general election campaign for you!

drunkmonkey

john4321 wrote: »

I'm sure there are plenty of parents around the country who dont have to arrange childcare or take a day off work as the schools won't be closed who wont be p1ssed.

He's literally saved us a headache and money by doing that. It just makes sense. We're getting better value out of our public service as well by the teachers being in work.
I'd be tempted to back them for that move alone, some of his party have to go but now doubt the ones that should be dismissed first probably fixed the roads in Greystones & Dun Laoighre.

Millionaire only not

I think we’re hitting for a hung Dail !
There’s no clear runner or stand out party to make a good run at it !

Millionaire only not

C__MC wrote: »

Lisa chambers struggling

Only for she’s pretty she’d be putting up the posters I’d say !

_Kaiser_

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Pitiful digs at each other.

I'd have to probably give it to Pierce to be honest.

Millionaire only not

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Because the idea is that by providing social housing, it'll take pressure off the private rental sector and in theory reduce costs and increase availability there.

It also gives more incentive not to work , but I guess it’s a catch 22 - damd if u do damd if u don’t

C__MC

Lisa chambers struggling

ChikiChiki

Pitiful digs at each other.

_Kaiser_

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Yes I agree. He has Gravitas unlike the Vlad person. But there we are.

In time he will be a good leader.

You're not watching RTE 1 then I take it.

He was woeful there.

Spanish Eyes

C__MC wrote: »

FG would be in a much healthier position if coveney was Taoiseach

A good man

Yes I agree. He has Gravitas unlike the Vlad person. But there we are.

In time he will be a good leader.

Water John

Yes, he will resign if he isn't going into Govn't, IWT.
I think FG will be short of quality to go on the media. Probably thought Coveney would be best with Brexit and NI negotiated, but he's painful on media.

_Kaiser_

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Why does anyone think it’s great to spend money on social housing!

Because the idea is that by providing social housing, it'll take pressure off the private rental sector and in theory reduce costs and increase availability there.

Millionaire only not

C__MC wrote: »

Is this the last throw of the dice for Micheal Martin?

I’d say he’d need a dice with the six on all sides to be Taoiseach

Millionaire only not

Why does anyone think it’s great to spend money on social housing!

_Kaiser_

C__MC wrote: »

Is this the last throw of the dice for Micheal Martin?

Probably. He'll be the only FF leader not to be Taoiseach if he doesn't do it this time

C__MC

Is this the last throw of the dice for Micheal Martin?

_Kaiser_

road_high wrote: »

Her brother is Jim O’Callaghan- a senior FF td- she’s hardly going to be completely unbiased now is she?

Regardless, it's still a fair point.

So far Coveney has does nothing but blame FF, dismiss SF, and talk over everyone.

Nothing new on offer from him beyond the waffle we've heard many times before.