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Election called for Saturday 8 February

Thelonious Monk

Can't see a thread on this. That's pretty soon huh? I hope people vote anything but FF/FG. Why not do something different for a change?

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pjohnson

titan18 wrote: »

It's hard for vote for FG considering it's Varadkar and Coveney who really don't seem to give a crap about people.

I don't think Martin does either tbh, but it's at least not saying that FGs performance has been acceptable.

Id ideally vote for neither but those turkey's are better than the others at least imo. Id ideally prefer an actual economic right party going into government who might give a crap about the working people of the country and not increase welfare spending.

A lot of 100% guaranteed FG voters are using this type line lol.

Anyone voting FG was never going to change their mind no matter what.

James Brown

titan18 wrote: »

It's hard for vote for FG considering it's Varadkar and Coveney who really don't seem to give a crap about people.

I don't think Martin does either tbh, but it's at least not saying that FGs performance has been acceptable.

Id ideally vote for neither but those turkey's are better than the others at least imo. Id ideally prefer an actual economic right party going into government who might give a crap about the working people of the country and not increase welfare spending.

You don't know that.
You can't have it both ways.
A right wing agenda favours business, the public suffer, welfare/aid needs to be widened and increased.

Itssoeasy

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Any party is the sum of it's members and how it deals with them.
We really need up our accountability expectations.

I didn't say my way is right that just how I see it. I can except you see it differently and that fine.

James Brown

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Ah well done. I’d say you’ve been dying to use that one.

It's well used. People just switch out the badly shopped photos depending on the party.

James Brown

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

O’Snodaigh is still a member of SF isn’t he?

Yes. Where am I losing you? There's more than one member y'know

JohnnyFlash

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Ah well done. I’d say you’ve been dying to use that one.

It’s pretty class in fairness.

JohnnyFlash

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Any party is the sum of it's members and how it deals with them.

O’Snodaigh is still a member of SF isn’t he?

titan18

It's hard for vote for FG considering it's Varadkar and Coveney who really don't seem to give a crap about people.

I don't think Martin does either tbh, but it's at least not saying that FGs performance has been acceptable.

Id ideally vote for neither but those turkey's are better than the others at least imo. Id ideally prefer an actual economic right party going into government who might give a crap about the working people of the country and not increase welfare spending.

Spanish Eyes

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

That would be gas altogether, SF, Labour and the hard left running the country.

But sure the Left voters have got everything going. What can entice them anymore?

The fiction that the current FG (or FF) are right wing is a total joke. They are not for the working slogging person at all anymore. The left are looked after very well in this country, but it will never be enough for them.

I'm done with Left politics. Look after the workers and contributors, their time has come, but who will deliver?

James Brown

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well no you wouldn't be as I see from people in both FG and FF that I know who can differentiate between a TD of the party and the party as a whole. As much as there have been members of FG and FF over the years who have done things which aren't acceptable it's not a reflection of those parties. That goes for not just the two big parties either. I understand that this may come off as ridiculously naive and hopeful but it's how I chose to see politics and life in general.

Any party is the sum of it's members and how it deals with them.
We really need up our accountability expectations.

Plumbthedepths

Celebrating Leo's record...

https://youtu.be/ye4XGG99wM4

[Deleted User]

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

Ah well done. I’d say you’ve been dying to use that one.

JohnnyFlash

Idbatterim wrote: »

my inbox consists of nothing but warning and bans , mostly from attacks on FG. I got a recent ban from the politics forum for an attack on varadkar. But honestly, I think I may have to vote for that farce as the best of an appalling lot. If we vote FF as a protest vote and they screw things up again and they are more likely to do that than FG. I dont think I can bear another recession Mark2. Certainly not one, that we partially brought on ourselves!

The housing situation is the only thing that I believe FF might do better, but what plans do they have in store? trying to pressure and blackmail the regulator into allowing higher borrowings, which just means more debt for buyers?

you vote FG though despite their appalling performance and if they win the most seats, it actually just shows them that no matter how poorly they perform, basically they wont lose power, because people dont see a party that will reward taxpayers. they have no where to go!

It is proven now beyond doubt, two parties, several decades, two booms! Absolute failure. Absolute useless morons, the other shower who are incompetent beyond belief and have no intention of governing! I despair!

Dude, you might want to calm down a bit. You’re in danger of giving yourself an ulcer. Decide who you are going to vote for and vote. It isn’t deciding if you’ll leave the wife or donate a kidney to your mate.

Die Hard 2019

Riskymove wrote: »

Well, the Greens are running candidates in every constituency

Yeah but nobody wants more taxes

Itssoeasy

Snow Garden wrote: »

If you vote FG you are essentially condoning the following;

Maria Bailey
Dara Murphy
Josepha Madigan
Alan Farrell

And encouraging all future government TDs to gorge at the taxpayer financed trough.

Well no you wouldn't be as I see from people in both FG and FF that I know who can differentiate between a TD of the party and the party as a whole. As much as there have been members of FG and FF over the years who have done things which aren't acceptable it's not a reflection of those parties. That goes for not just the two big parties either. I understand that this may come off as ridiculously naive and hopeful but it's how I chose to see politics and life in general.

Spanish Eyes

Billcarson wrote: »

But yet you would take the likes of ff seriously, a party that bankrupted the country. The whiff of corruption is always below the surface for me.

Sorry now, I don't think I ever said that I would take FF seriously anymore.

As you so rightly say, they will revert to type in time IMV.

Itssoeasy

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

That would be gas altogether, SF, Labour and the hard left running the country.

I mean that may be a reality down the line but just from the way the dail numbers will likely work out that's not a reality in 2020. I mean FF and FG in the past used to get a huge proportion of the total election vote with labour getting the majority of the rest with a few independents thrown in. That has clearly changed but it's not changed enough to change the reality of over ninety years(FF founded in 1927 and FG founded in 1932) of it being one way.

Galwayguy35

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Two party politics one or the other of FF or FG will be the senior party no other political institution has the numbers to unseat these two, even a rainbow coalition of the smaller parties would be impossible due to the differing party manifestos.

That would be gas altogether, SF, Labour and the hard left running the country.

blanch152

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Name them and how do you know?

John McGuinness and Eamon O’Cuiv are on the record in favour of a deal with SF and there are others in the background

Snow Garden

If you vote FG you are essentially condoning the following;

Maria Bailey
Dara Murphy
Josepha Madigan
Alan Farrell

And encouraging all future government TDs to gorge at the taxpayer financed trough.

L1011

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

I'd predict a fractured Dail, with no party getting more than 30% of the seats.

Tons of Independent TDs and a weak coalition government.

Polling figures and the LE would suggest fewer Independents than currently. Some high profile retirements, reduced feedstock of replacement Independents with profiles, less generalised anger (its more specific now) and also the pathetic performance of the Independents that went in to Government.

Jimbob1977

I'd predict a fractured Dail, with no party getting more than 30% of the seats.

Tons of Independent TDs and a weak coalition government.

RobbingBandit

Two party politics one or the other of FF or FG will be the senior party no other political institution has the numbers to unseat these two, even a rainbow coalition of the smaller parties would be impossible due to the differing party manifestos.

pjohnson

Alannah Nutritious Warning wrote: »

The word was that it would be the 7th or the 14th for a while.

There was a drive last year to register a lot of young voters. They will only be registered as of the 15th. So this might have been a factor in the date that was chosen.

Posters of Varadkar went up before the election was announced.

Dont want younger people voting. It wouldnt suit FG so just stop them voting at all.

pjohnson

Idbatterim wrote: »

my inbox consists of nothing but warning and bans , mostly from attacks on FG. I got a recent ban from the politics forum for an attack on varadkar. But honestly, I think I may have to vote for that farce as the best of an appalling lot. If we vote FF as a protest vote and they screw things up again and they are more likely to do that than FG. I dont think I can bear another recession Mark2. Certainly not one, that we partially brought on ourselves!

The housing situation is the only thing that I believe FF might do better, but what plans do they have in store? trying to pressure and blackmail the regulator into allowing higher borrowings, which just means more debt for buyers?

you vote FG though despite their appalling performance and if they win the most seats, it actually just shows them that no matter how poorly they perform, basically they wont lose power, because people dont see a party that will reward taxpayers. they have no where to go!

It is proven now beyond doubt, two parties, several decades, two booms! Absolute failure. Absolute useless morons, the other shower who are incompetent beyond belief and have no intention of governing! I despair!

I'm shocked :pac:

dundalkfc10

After the scandals over past year (not even going further back than that) Anyone who votes Fine Gael does not care about

1. Homeless
2. Politicians ripping the country off with false expenses claims/not bothering to vote/voting for each other when not there
3. Health System
4. Unemployment Rates (getting put on a scheme is not employment)

Augme

blanch152 wrote: »

Micheal Martin has ruled out going in with Sinn Fein, Fianna Fail haven't. There are plenty of leaders-in-waiting prepared to do the deal.

So after Michael martin leads to becoming the largest party on the state he will be challenged as leader and lose, because he won't go into power with sinn Fein. Yea, can't see that happening st all.

[Deleted User]

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

They should be given a chance, could they be that bad

No they should not!
The country would be broke in a fortnight!

JP Liz V1

Wanderer78 wrote: »

SF are goosed, I can't ever see them in government

They should be given a chance, could they be that bad

Idbatterim

my inbox consists of nothing but warning and bans , mostly from attacks on FG. I got a recent ban from the politics forum for an attack on varadkar. But honestly, I think I may have to vote for that farce as the best of an appalling lot. If we vote FF as a protest vote and they screw things up again and they are more likely to do that than FG. I dont think I can bear another recession Mark2. Certainly not one, that we partially brought on ourselves!

The housing situation is the only thing that I believe FF might do better, but what plans do they have in store? trying to pressure and blackmail the regulator into allowing higher borrowings, which just means more debt for buyers?

you vote FG though despite their appalling performance and if they win the most seats, it actually just shows them that no matter how poorly they perform, basically they wont lose power, because people dont see a party that will reward taxpayers. they have no where to go!

It is proven now beyond doubt, two parties, several decades, two booms! Absolute failure. Absolute useless morons, the other shower who are incompetent beyond belief and have no intention of governing! I despair!