extra gravy wrote: » I'm not sure Irish people are mature enough to move on from the past, that's evident from the hysterical overreaction to the commemoration. You can also see from numerous posts in this thread that tolerance is an alien concept to some.
extra gravy wrote: » How the fück would you know what he did or didn't do? Just keep making assumptions and tarring them all with the same brush. Sure he'd be a saint if he had been on the other side murdering before and behind him in the name of "freedom".
Strazdas wrote: » Ironically, the Civil War is a big factor in this. The war was well underway by December 6, 1922 when the Irish Free State came into being. Dev subsequently coming to power meant our Independence Day being edited out of the history books, as if it had never happened.
Jinglejangle69 wrote: » You should really read a history book before going on a rant.
jmcc wrote: » Flanagan is one of the most incompetent ministers and given the competiton, that's really saying something. He's not even capable of running a bath without screwing it up. Regards...jmcc
jmcc wrote: » He's not even capable of running a bath without screwing it up. Regards...jmcc
droidman123 wrote: » Where did all this "mature" mallarkey come from
Plumbthedepths wrote: » A friend of mine is from the country formerly known as East Germany. She asked me what this RIC thing was about , I explained. She asked is our government f**king mad. To her that would be the same as the German state comemorating the Stasi.
extra gravy wrote: » Time to unsubscribe. I don't know how some posters have the energy for all the hatred they have. I'll stick to maturity and tolerance, like an adult.
BarryD2 wrote: » I expect all unionists might expect is a bit of honesty first up. You & others seem to suffer from some delusion that all the old IRB /IRA did was honorable and for the greater glory of mother Ireland. The 'Christian Brother' history of Ireland is nasty and corrosive. For starters there must be very good reasons why the records of the Land Commission are still withheld from the public. Why, we'll wait & see but I fully expect from accounts I've come across that the boyos involved in the 'war of independence' were nicely looked after in terms of grand farms for themselves. Good old style ethnic cleansing. Were they fighting for the republican ideal or just because they had their eye on the neighbours land?
corner of hells wrote: » There's actually a Stasi museum set up by the German government to support research, development, commemoration along with the exhibition of evidence and research relating to east German politics. Just imagine a DMP / RIC museum..... nah don't. Maybe have a little chat with your friend.
fundi wrote: » Correct. There are two sides to every story, and in Ireland the victors wrote the history books, and done the brainwashing.
Zebra3 wrote: » Just because European jews started moving to Palestine which didn't exist as an independent state didn't give the racist European zionists any right to form a state there. Why do you feel that Palestinians organising attacks on those planning to steal their country is some sort of issue?
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » John Bruton is not a member of the house of lords FYI. I have a lot of respect for Bruton - speaks so much common sense it's hard for most to take it in all at once. :cool:
Plumbthedepths wrote: » I was in the KGB museum in Riga, it certainly wasn't set up to commemorate the KGB rather their victims. The Stasi museum wasn't set up to commemorate the Stasi. You do know that comemoration means remember and respect by definition.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » But thats how its done. On a typical bath, it is correct to screw up the tap for the water to run.
corner of hells wrote: » Settle there , don't be taking things too serious. I know what commemoration with extra M means.
mick malones mauser wrote: » Shocking to think that people openly admit to having had grandparents who were members of that mob of turncoat lackeys The RIC... No shame
Plumbthedepths wrote: » Apologies I didn't realise this was a joke for you. The extra m was a typo cheers for pointing it out though.
Kermit.de.frog wrote: » You'd have more success (and reasoning) arguing with flat earthers than shinner bots.
Zebra3 wrote: » It was the British by their brutal executions of the leaders of 1916 who managed to sway public.
Sean.3516 wrote: » I’ve never understood how one can describe the British executing the 1916 leaders as brutal or disproportionate. When you and your squad run a suicide mission leading to half of Dublin being levelled, Widespread civilian death and the diverting of military resources during a world war because you thought you knew what what was good for the Irish people better than they themselves (it wasn’t like the Irish people had an assembly and decided to declare independence and sent Pearse in) and wanted to fulfil your dream of dying for the cause. What does one expect the British to do in this situation? Sry, u don’t get to do all that and just walk away. The brits just wanted to deal with it so they could get back to fighting Germans.
extra gravy wrote: » Loving all the keyboard warriors on here and on social media. My grandad was in the RIC and like most in it he wasn't a murderer or a traitor, he was just a regular guy trying to provide for his family. But of course, he should have taken the moral high ground, quit his job and let them starve. I'd like to see how many parents now would be prepared to put their country before the needs of their children. Not many I'd wager.
Sir Oxman wrote: » I'd completely support an equivalent here, lest we forget. Just like the east Germans.
