cryptocurrency wrote: » Rememeber we live in a country where even having a british accent leads to abuse. Why is anyone surpised by this reaction. Nothing has changed and until society grows up, there will always be the north and the south.
KWAG2019 wrote: » Try any foreign accent in England. By growing up you mean bend over for unionists.
cryptocurrency wrote: » and this is why it isn't gonna happen lads. So we are all agreed.
Zebra3 wrote: » Redmond was a typical hypocritical coward. Asking others to sign up for a war they he wouldn't go fight in himself.
Zebra3 wrote: » As for the Home Rule Act. The Brits promised a lot of things to a lot of people. They betrayed the Palestinians and promised their land to European jewish colonialists.
lmimmfn wrote: » Yes, Of corse, if it means having to commemorate the RIC today as a Republic in the Republic then yes, of course don't want it ever to happen.
Fr. Pat Noise wrote: » I’ve made up a handy post for people to use on twitter/Facebook etc. please delete as required. “Irish people should be utterly ashamed of themselves”
buried wrote: » Gway ta f**k with that noise saab, ordinary RIC men stood with those terrorist murderers on those occasions and plenty other ones too. The only people who have "misunderstood" anything is the boot licking self loathing $hitheels in FG who assume we should all do what they want us to do and how we view our actual history. Sorry bluebells, not going to happen.
FrancieBrady wrote: » Unionists wouldn't expect us to commemorate the RIC/DMP and the B&Ts just as we wouldn't expect them to commemorate the IRA or Pearse or Connolly. The only ones who expect this are our own peculiar breed of partitionists and hat doffers.
The Rape of Lucretia wrote: » The difference being these clowns were terrorists outside the law.
KWAG2019 wrote: » Lol. You mean British colonial law designed to keep Irish people subjugated. The absolute innocence of people defending British law in Ireland is breathtaking.
saabsaab wrote: » You must remember that like many I had a relative in the DMP. I can't imagine him being a villain just an ordinary man in a job. I also had a relative in the old IRA both Irishmen and by all accounts decent men.
DubInMeath wrote: » No we don't, I've plenty of English friends living here who never get any abuse. Can't say the same for being Irish in the U.K.however. We do.however tend to take the piss out of the type of people who use terms like soyboy, femboys etc, ie morons.
mikeym wrote: » What would Michael Collins say about this? Im sure he wouldnt be too impressed by politicians who dont know their Irish history.
cryptocurrency wrote: » Really? I worked it out as - working class northern english accents ok - Southern accents not. The obsession with class is beyond insecurity now.
nthclare wrote: » My dead relatives would be turning in their grave if those goons got any positive recognition. Shower of **** they were, harassing people licking the arses of the local constabulary, traitors and some of our own were at it too. I don't care if its not PC to glorify those bastards, but they were filthy rotten imperialistic knobs, wasters. There was always some local tout too who told on the locals. The best example was the movie Ryan's Daughter they portray them in the right light.
Sean.3516 wrote: » Michael Collins was able to sit down and make a deal with men who wanted him hanging him from a rope. I think Collins and most of the Pro-Treaty/Cumman na nGaedhal crew understood the need for reconciliation.
buried wrote: » I don't give a monkeys **** what relative you had anywhere man. Your perception of your own relative doesn't whitewash or eradicate actual history of what happened. Speaking about 'Ordinary Men' there is a great book with that actual title written by Christopher Browning. You should read it and see what other 'Ordinary Men' were capable of elsewhere too.
DubInMeath wrote: » Think you'll find it's England with the class issues, and yes some of ye are beyond insecure with it.
saabsaab wrote: » What I am saying is that these were ordinary men caught up in a particular situation that is a reality of what happened too. Whatever any 'history' says.
Sean.3516 wrote: » Honestly I don’t see conscription as a price too high to pay for Home Rule.
Sean.3516 wrote: » Well, he was almost 60 in 1914. Well what the British promised the Palestinians in the Balfour Declaration was essentially a two-state solution. The first ever proposed. Arab state and Jewish state. It fell through due to lack of Arab co-operation. Bearing in mind the Brits were heavily biased in favour of the Arabs due to oil interests.
cryptocurrency wrote: » They were people doing jobs in the society in which they lived for the establishment they lived under all their lives. I know plenty of lads who were in the Army and went to Iraq, Afganistan, Bosnia and some to northern Ireland. They knew nothing of the politics or the history and just did a job. I can tell you the average infantry from Newcastle, Cardiff or Stoke didn't have the first idea about any of these places including the north.