Markcheese wrote: » I don't see how they can cock it up , it's a contractor,they've started ,the money's already allocated by central government ... Once the scrub and undergrowth is cleared ,and the rails ( which have a value ) are lifted ,the original ballast is still there , so either gravel blinding or tarmac on top ... Famous last words I know .....
Flesh Gorden wrote: » Works get underway on greenway in Corkhttps://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Works-get-underway-on-greenway-in-Cork-d177f4e3-d393-4df2-9c3f-a5ae1e298ab9-ds Clearance works begin on the old Youghal to Midleton line. Hopefully it doesn't turn into another Marina Park. No mentions of expected completion dates.
namloc1980 wrote: » Had a look at CMATS and there was no P&R for Midleton included in that. CMATS is in effect the long term plan out to 2040. Joined up thinking isn't a strong point in Ireland.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » It isn't something that could happen in the next year or two but could be part of a longer term plan. I'd be surprised if an eastern route around the town wasn't already a desire in development plans for the town. It's something that could be campaigned for now that could realistically happen, unlike extending the rail line to Youghal.
namloc1980 wrote: » I doubt there is going to be funding set aside for a CPO, a P&R and construction of an access road. I agree it would be a good location for one though however can't see the powers that be ever funding it.
Pete_Cavan wrote: » Reopening the full line would be too expensive for limited benefit but would a P&R station 1.5km east of Midleton work with a new access road provided? It would reduce traffic travelling from east to west of Midleton and the car park could be used by greenway users at weekends which would attract people from further afield.
D'Agger wrote: » TBH I'm okay with the greenway. It could be argued that a rail line to Youghal would help improve it as a commuter town, help alleviate very bad traffic in Castlemartyr in the mornings but I don't fully believe that to be the case as people on that route are travelling from further afield. Improvement of the existing rail services i.e. extension of operating hours with reduced fares (this is dream territory) for peak times and higher fares for late night commutes. Or movement towards 24 hour bus service as with the Ballincollig route though that's a city service and unlikely to happen. Either way, the point is, if commuter towns are to grow, then access to the city that is sustainable is the answer, yet we see no innovation or discussion of this by the powers that be
whisky_galore wrote: » No it wouldn't. Once a greenway always a greenway. The lycra mafia would see to that.
namloc1980 wrote: » If it ever were viable in the future at least the Greenway will ensure the assignment is preserved.
Flesh Gorden wrote: » Plus, considering it's now €10.15 for a return ticket on the Cork Midleton line, I'd estimate a Youghal to Cork return train ticket would have been in the €18-20 range. Similar to the return bus tickets of €19 to Youghal and €11.40 to Midleton.
Rhys Essien wrote: » In 2008, they spent almost €100m on the Glounthaune to Midleton section. In 2020 the section from Midleton to Youghal would be €350m+ Any big industry in Youghal or Midleton - No. What little crowd traveling on it would be all one way. A total non-runner that would never be viable.
whisky_galore wrote: » It could never be a rail line with the backwards thinking in this country, at local and national level, all climate change noises yet still wedded to the private car. A greenway, shur it'll do.
Flesh Gorden wrote: » Works get underway on greenway in Corkhttps://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Works-get-underway-on-greenway-in-Cork-d177f4e3-d393-4df2-9c3f-a5ae1e298ab9-ds Clearance works begin on the old Youghal to Midleton line. Hopefully it doesn't turn into another Marina Park. No mentions of expected completion dates. I remember people were calling for it to be re-opened as a train service, but at least it's better to be doing something with the space, than leaving it as it is. Plus, considering it's now €10.15 for a return ticket on the Cork Midleton line, I'd estimate a Youghal to Cork return train ticket would have been in the €18-20 range. Similar to the return bus tickets of €19 to Youghal and €11.40 to Midleton.
namloc1980 wrote: » I'm hoping the only reason they looked at Dublin was to get an idea of how NOT to redevelop a docklands area.
Markcheese wrote: » Actually ,that's probably the best thing that could be done for transport in cork , if councillors ,city manager ,the mayor had to use public transport and bikes ( give them electric bikes) you'd see a lot more focus on getting people (not just cars ) moving around cork ..
whisky_galore wrote: » Pretending to care about the environment, give the LM a free push bike altogether if they must.
bingo9999 wrote: » It did cost them a car so not entirely free, but youre not wrong on the substance, parochial guff
whisky_galore wrote: » Easy to be a leader when you get it for nothing. Ridiculous "tradition", free advertising for Ford.
fonecrusher1 wrote: » Hopefully Cork will avoid what Dublin has become. Its all very positive. Prism to start soon from what the main man snotboogie was saying.
Rhys Essien wrote: » Good to hear. What would be the point if it got decreased even further. Another funny thing from the article, the city council director said they looked at dockland development in Dublin,Denmark,Sweden,Spain and UK. Did any of them think of Rotterdam. A cool practically brand new city. That should be the template.
marno21 wrote: » Planning already gone in for 34 storeys so I’m guessing it’s a typo and it meant “ initially sketched at over 40 storeys”
Rhys Essien wrote: » I hope the last part of this article isn’t true. Talking about Custom House Tower and a quote ‘initially sketched at over 30 storeys’. Are they trying to say it’s going to be downscaled even further.? https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/property/corks-boundary-extension-sees-city-grow-like-a-well-fed-child-973390.html
