blanch152 wrote: » Mayo raise vast amounts of money from their supporters but fritter it away and refuse to be accountable for the money raised, I don't need to go over all those details, they are well-known. Dublin get more money for games development coaches, because they have more juveniles playing the game. Simple as. If we gave Leitrim the same money as Dublin, every U-14 player in Leitrim could have a personal coach.
dunnerc wrote: » Stop with your nonsense , splitting Dublin will not happen , the Dublin people will never accept it .
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Has it not occurred to you that if dubs went down that route them the non dublin folk might just demand it?
Sweet.Science wrote: » They will be split. All it takes is for other counties to pull out of the championship and it will be done the following year
Dr. Bre wrote: » What counties have said they are threatening to pull out?
dunnerc wrote: » Not a chance Dublin will accept a split , no harm in dreaming though
BonnieSituation wrote: » Accept? Are we waiting on a proposal from our benevolent compatriots who allow us to play their sports?
kilns wrote: » As I have said previously splitting Dublin solely would do nothing for the GAA world except to the benefit of Kerry mostly. If Dublin were to be split up then other counties must join in order to create a level playing field and a championship in which any team can win each year. Those calling for a split of Dublin solely and claiming this will solve the problem are living in a fantasy land or are from a county who are contenders and would directly benefit
MayoAreMagic wrote: » That has already been addressed. Certain counties, mainly the ones in division 4 Id imagine, could be offered voluntary amalgamation. If they chose not to, which I doubt they would tbh, then it doesnt really affect the game hugely. Re dublin going through the courts, that would go absolutley nowhere. The same way dublin getting so much extra funding has never ended up there. The other counties could just vote to place dublin in the railway cup and that would be that. If they didnt want to fulfill their fixtures, that is their business. Some guys seem to think that dublin could bully everyone else and hold the whole thing to ransom. I dont know how they have come to this conclusion, but they are deluded.
salmocab wrote: » No what would play out in that unbelievably unlikely scenario is the dubs would pull out and the sponsorship would collapse. I wouldn’t lose any sleep though as it won’t happen.
salmocab wrote: » You’ve spent months telling people what should happen to Dublin and when people point out it’s not going to happen you claim people think Dublin could bully everyone else? Utter rubbish, someone is deluded here your right.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » Why would sponsors follow them? Do you think super value wont replace bernard brogan now that he has retired? You are kidding yourself. It could be con ocallaghan, or it could be david clifford. Ocallaghans loss then.. New stars would come forth. Sponsors would chase them. In reality, the rest of the gaa world are paying for dublins financial doping as it stands anyway, and nobody but dublin is getting any of the sponsorship money generated by dublin. So in reality, dublin wield very little power as regards sponsorship, over the rest of the gaa. So threats about sponsorship are completely hollow
dunnerc wrote: » Non Dublin folk can demand all they like , Dublin will not be split
salmocab wrote: » Sponsors would drop it because the brand gets damaged without the biggest draw in the sport. The sport loses press coverage or at least positive stuff about the game. Less bums on seats too so that won’t help. I’m not making threats as I’m not in a position to, I’m pointing out what would happen if this was to come to pass. It won’t though as the knock on effects would be huge and way beyond what people here imagine.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » What sponsors would drop it? Kerry group? Elverys? Supervalue? I dobt see that happening at all. Some of the ones behind dublin maybe, but those are dublin sponsors so it has no effect on the rest. The brand is being damaged as it stands with the financial doping going on. Even the pundits are discussing it on matchdays. I dont think it gets any less coverage for the games personally. Its the national game. It got plenty coverage when dublin werent featuring, and if anything, tighter big games make for more neutral viewers. There are a lot more neutral viewers than fans of any one team. What knock on effects? This sounds an awful lot like scaremongering tbh. You arent giving many concrete details here.
MayoAreMagic wrote: » They can demand it democratically via a vote. The only move dublin would have left at that point would be to picket croke park on matchdays, which could also end up in the courts. However, the gaa could just move games to a different stadium. I dont see what move dublin have left at that point. Obviously the gaa money would be stopped. The sponsorship money would be no more. The professional element of their setup would be still collecting their wages. They could get very poor, very quickly. Could they afford going to the courts?
buzzing147 wrote: » The people talking about "splits" are the same people that "laughed" at Dublin not winning the all Ireland for years. Funny world this.
salmocab wrote: » Nobody is giving details because there are none. This is all internet talk. You honestly think brands wouldn’t be bothered by the biggest draw in the sport not being there or even split? There was never a point where Dublin weren’t featuring just a point when they weren’t very good it’s not the same thing. We also live in a different world where clicks and likes feature very strongly for brands and sponsorship.
kilns wrote: » and if all counties decide to vote to split Mayo up and Galway up to give a competitive and evenly matched Connaught championship you will have no issues with it?
MayoAreMagic wrote: » If the majority rules then that is the reality. Nobody would vote for that though, because it is nonsensical to treat the connacht championship in isolation. Splitting dublin makes total sense, so people would vote for it.
kilns wrote: » So if weaker counties should be given an option to amalgamate why dont Dublin. Its the same argument but both ends of the spectrum. How do you quantify extra funding, for example what do you base extra funding received by Dublin in 2018 (latest figures), is it purely on monetary amounts?
