Thelonious Monk wrote: » A lot of that is down to poor planning. We shouldn't be planning our societies around cars. Anyway Ireland is a car-centric society that doesn't like investing in public transport, so no one need worry, there's only going to be more and more cars on the roads in the coming years.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » How do you know we're at peak ownership? I think I read the other day that the N11 through Glen of the Dowds or Downs or whatever in Wicklow had 20,000 cars a day going through it 10 years ago, and now it has 50,000 on average. I would have thought ownership will continue to soar as prosperity increases.
The sad news is that the generation below me is missing out on this joy. A Department for Transport report has found that driving has declined dramatically over the past 20 years. While just under half of 17- to 20-year-olds had licences in 1992-4, that figure was 29% by 2014. And the number of 21- to 29-year-olds with licences also decreased, from 75% to 63%. Academics from the University of Oxford and UWE Bristol believe the reasons range from financial hardship and the cost of keeping a car, to the delayed adulthood on gen Y and Z, and, most worryingly of all, the rise of digital communication beginning to replace face-to-face interaction.
Thelonious Monk wrote: » It seems to me traffic in Dublin now is worse than ever though
gozunda wrote: » So you are taking a research report and putting your personal spin over it? The bolded bit about concrete is a good case in point. Cement the key ingredient in concrete And it is estimated elsewhere that "Cement is the source of about 8% of the world's carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions" in contrast to the 2% claimed for combined cement and concrete manufacture in that report btw. "If the cement industry were a country, it would be the third largest emitter in the world - behind China and the US. ..."https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46455844 And please note it's not the energy requirements arising from manufacture and transport (approx10% of emissions from the sector) - but rather the chemical process itself where the principle constituent - limestone (calcium carbonate) undergoes a chemical reaction resulting in large emissions of CO2 - amounting to approx 90% of the CO2 released And its completely incorrect to try and claim "switching to renewables to produce the concrete would reduce this" (your words not contained in the report) And note none of that "is ideological and political. It is simply basic science
Eric Cartman wrote: » youre looking at a bleak future where more than half the drivers we have are off the road in 30 years time.
Pa ElGrande wrote: » Chapter2: Observations: Atmosphere and Surface (page 214)
KyussB wrote: » It's quoted directly from the article - I didn't state anyting that the article didn't - you're mistaking the indented text from the article, as being my words. Wilfully so - as it's pretty blindingly obvious, especially with the '...' editing out of most of the text - that it's not my words....
KyussB wrote: The article is concerned with a Green New Deal style infrastructure project - obviously when evaluating that projects use of cement, you only count that projects use of cement, not the entire economies use of it...
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Sounds great to me, I hope you're right
Eric Cartman wrote: » Itll be fine for me as traffic willjust get lighter and ill drive big filthy petrol/diesel cars till the day I die, your posts come accross as jealous of car owners more thsn anything. but Id suggest you get a driving licence and a car, give it a go. Itsa load of fun
The film, which does not yet have distribution, is a low-budget but piercing examination of what the filmmakers say are the false promises of the environmental movement and why we’re still “addicted” to fossil fuels. Director Jeff Gibbs takes on electric cars, solar panels, windmills, biomass, biofuel, leading environmentalist groups like the Sierra Club, and even figures from Al Gore and Van Jones, who served as Barack Obama’s special adviser for green jobs, to 350.org leader Bill McKibben, a leading environmentalist and advocate for grassroots climate change movements. Gibbs, who produced Moore’s Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11, didn’t set out to take on the environmental movement. He said he wanted to know why things weren’t getting better. But when he started pulling on the thread, he and Moore said they were shocked to find how inextricably entangled alternative energy is with coal and natural gas, since they say everything from wind turbines to electric car charging stations are tethered to the grid, and even how two of the Koch brothers — Charles and David — are tied to solar panel production through their glass production business.source
gozunda wrote: » KyussB - I challenge you to find the words"switching to renewables to produce the concrete would reduce this" as included in your comments about concrete - in the article to you linked
Building the infrastructure necessary for this transition would, of course, create CO2 emissions. The researchers calculated that the necessary steel and concrete would require about 0.914 percent of current CO2 emissions. But switching to renewables to produce the concrete would reduce this.
gozunda wrote: » afaik boards doesn't take that lightly ...
hetuzozaho wrote: » I must get around to this later. Always enjoyed Attenborough. For others who missed it:https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/status/1211396285107986438
Millicently wrote: » Did she take the train or the ferry this time?
Dakota Dan wrote: » Attenborough and his fictional stories about walruses, nothing enjoyable about that.
hetuzozaho wrote: » To where?
is_that_so wrote: » Do you not remember the so-called "spat" with DB? Don't think there was a ferry though as you can go all the way to Sweden by train.
Dia_Anseo wrote: » Your post comes across as you need to fulfil your lack of testosterone through driving "big filthy petrol/diesel" as a front to mask your shortage of testosterone. I am a car enthusiast but my priority is also to strike a balance of sustainability and caring for our planet. That's why I cycle most of the time and bought a used Leaf for commutes, while my treat of a Porsche/ Mustang is restricted for pleasures.
hetuzozaho wrote: » I'm lost! What ferry?
Eric Cartman wrote: » Why is it when theres an insult to be thrown at car owners/enthusiasts that a pushbike is always that users method of choice :pac:
Thelonious Monk wrote: » Why is it that people that don't believe in climate change hate cyclists?
Thelonious Monk wrote: »
Eric Cartman wrote: » I believe in climate change and hate cyclists. I just dont believe in taxation as a solution or any solution that doesnt require asia africa and south america to pull the majority of the weight going forward. And I dont support the idea of corporate interests paying for a 16 year old autistic girl to preach white centric tax focussed solutions at me.
