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Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Jimmy Garlic

Climate saint Greta Trunburg is settling sail for UN climate talks in New York to demand that governments socially engineer and tax the little people into oblivion to save the planet. Accompanied by her film maker father who lives vicariously through her, a filthy rich aristocrat from Monaco and some German bloke the trip will no doubt vastly increase the wattage of her halo before she lectures us all about impending climate Armageddon in New York. Hopefully snaps from the trip will make it into Hello! Magazine.

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Eric Cartman

Professor Genius wrote: »

Does anyone know if she’s back on her meds? There’s rumours her handlers are withholding them or feeding her placebos

This just seems like some tinfoil hat stuff, wheres this coming from

Professor Genius

Eric Cartman wrote: »

This just seems like some tinfoil hat stuff, wheres this coming from

She needs to be kept angry and on edge. Hence the need to withhold medication.

Eric Cartman

Professor Genius wrote: »

She needs to be kept angry and on edge. Hence the need to withhold medication.

Ok, but wheres the evidence that her meds prevent this, that she was on meds to begin with or that theyre being withheld, has somebody put it up on a news story or twitter or have you imagined it

Millicently

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

Luisa-Marie Neubauer and she was also associated with 350.org.

There are also propaganda outlets or as they like to be called these days "social change agencies" like Fenton Communications.

So her first transatlantic sailing was aboard a yacht owned by a Rothschild and her personal assistant for want of a better description, is associated with the Rockefeller's. My my but Greta keeps interesting company.

20Cent

Right wingers can't believe that someone would be genuinely concerned about something without there being a whole conspiracy theory behind it. Some shadowy James Bond type villan who wants to turn the world socialist or similar nonsense.

gozunda

20Cent wrote: »

Right wingers can't believe that someone would be genuinely concerned about something without there being a whole conspiracy theory behind it. Some shadowy James Bond type villan who wants to turn the world socialist or similar nonsense.

"Right wingers"? You mean everyone you don't happen to agree with?

Nah reckon it's just the usual angry spoilt teenager who wants to blame the adults for whatever they think should be blamed for. Difference is this one is being fetted and generally fawned over. That said considering the extremely vocalised opinions - she is keeping some well weird and apparentely contradictary company all the same.

KyussB

So, a family of oil oligarch's contribute funding to anti-climate change movements: Where is the conflict of interest?

It takes money to fund political movements. It's like oil-oligarch-funded Libertarians think they are the only ones that should receive funding...

Ironicname

gozunda wrote:

Nah reckon it's just the usual angry spoilt teenager who wants to blame the adults for whatever they think should be blamed for. Difference is this one is being fetted and generally fawned over. That said considering the extremely vocalised opinions - she is keeping some well weird and apparentely contradictary company all the same.

Spose you could call her a grifter

hetuzozaho

Professor Genius wrote: »

She needs to be kept angry and on edge. Hence the need to withhold medication.

This sounds interesting...

20Cent

gozunda wrote: »

"Right wingers"? You mean everyone you don't happen to agree with?

Nah reckon it's just the usual angry spoilt teenager who wants to blame the adults for whatever they think should be blamed for. Difference is this one is being fetted and generally fawned over. That said considering the extremely vocalised opinions - she is keeping some well weird and apparentely contradictary company all the same.

Climate change deniers and people attacking Greta tend to be low information right wing types.

Pa ElGrande

20Cent wrote: »

Climate change deniers and people attacking Greta tend to be low information right wing types.

Do have a read of Cory Morningstars The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg. This is told from the perspective of a political left winger and sees this scheme as exploitation by the "capitalist class and their fellow travellers".

There is money changing hands behind Greta. I hope you are not naive enough to belief the fairy tale about how one day a random girl goes on strike and the next she is front page news and they she gets to travel in a multi-million pound yacht (that has a diesel engine just in case) to the a UN conference.

gozunda

20Cent wrote: »

Climate change deniers and people attacking Greta tend to be low information right wing types.

Only according to your own strange bias tbh...

The big problem there is that most eveyone here who is not one of your stereotypes ie 'right wingers" "low information" "deniers" tend not go with the whole worship greta thing.

Those who do go with the whole greta worship thing - appear to frequently engage in the more common garden variety of eejitery and name calling tbh.

But there we go - What's new on this thread eh?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Professor Genius

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

Do have a read of Cory Morningstars The Manufacturing of Greta Thunberg. This is told from the perspective of a political left winger and sees this scheme as exploitation by the "capitalist class and their fellow travellers".

There is money changing hands behind Greta. I hope you are not naive enough to belief the fairy tale about how one day a random girl goes on strike and the next she is front page news and they she gets to travel in a multi-million pound yacht (that has a diesel engine just in case) to the a UN conference.

It ties in with the medication slant knocking around on Twitter.

Ironicname

Pa ElGrande wrote:

There is money changing hands behind Greta. I hope you are not naive enough to belief the fairy tale about how one day a random girl goes on strike and the next she is front page news and they she gets to travel in a multi-million pound yacht (that has a diesel engine just in case) to the a UN conference.

Sadly, you will find that certain posters will gladly ignore common sense once something aligns with, and confirms their belief or bias.

Millicently

KyussB wrote: »

So, a family of oil oligarch's contribute funding to anti-climate change movements: Where is the conflict of interest?

It takes money to fund political movements. It's like oil-oligarch-funded Libertarians think they are the only ones that should receive funding...

The conflict of interest comes when they eventually announce some new green technology and are given preferential treatment because of their association with Greta's campaign. It's also known as lobbying.

MrAbyss

the use of emotional manipulation behind the fake environmental movement is a long running scam

Fr_Dougal

Kony 2012, Greta 2019.

All media manipulation.

SaintLeibowitz

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Kony 2012, Greta 2019.

All media manipulation.

So media is manipulating the climate?

SaintLeibowitz

Professor Genius wrote: »

It ties in with the medication slant knocking around on Twitter.

By alt right types no doubt.

Professor Genius

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

By alt right types no doubt.

Well it’s hardly the climstremists, sure they’re probably the ones feeding her the dud drugs.

Pa ElGrande

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

So media is manipulating the climate?

The climate we experience is within expected bounds for each particular region on the planet, despite the hoopla there are no discerable trends that can be attributed to the activities of mankind. The media is however manipulating the public and has confused objectivity with advocacy.

RTE even resorted to disinformation and fake news in a recent program showing a computer generated image of flooding on O'Connell street.

The known facts about the rate of sea-level rise do not support RTEs projection, this was done solely for the purposes of emotional manipulation of its viewership.

KyussB

Millicently wrote: »

The conflict of interest comes when they eventually announce some new green technology and are given preferential treatment because of their association with Greta's campaign. It's also known as lobbying.

That doesn't show any conflict of interest among the anti-climate change movements - which is what people are suggesting - I think you know that full well, too...

Professor Moriarty

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

So media is manipulating the climate?

This is great news. The mainstream media and the UN have been lying to us all along. And as for those pesky scientists! It's all a hoax. Nothing to worry about. I'm so glad so many people on this thread have posted such erudite and fact based arguments on here that disprove climate change. Compelling they were. It's just a conspiracy by governments to increase taxes.

KyussB

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

RTE even resorted to disinformation and fake news in a recent program showing a computer generated image of flooding on O'Connell street.

The known facts about the rate of sea-level rise do not support RTEs projection, this was done solely for the purposes of emotional manipulation of its viewership.

Our own official geological surveys support flooding projections on O'Connell street:
https://www.gsi.ie/documents/Potential_flooding_areas_in_Dublin_projected_by2100.pdf

Professor Moriarty

KyussB wrote: »

Our own official geological surveys support flooding projections on O'Connell street:
https://www.gsi.ie/documents/Potential_flooding_areas_in_Dublin_projected_by2100.pdf

Fake news.

Eric Cartman

KyussB wrote: »

Our own official geological surveys support flooding projections on O'Connell street:
https://www.gsi.ie/documents/Potential_flooding_areas_in_Dublin_projected_by2100.pdf

with a 0.5AEP (Low probability) 200 : 1 chance of it happening / 200 year reoccurence rate , and that a depth of 1.98 meters which isnt shown in that picture at all as the bridge sidings would be completely submersed.

SaintLeibowitz

Professor Genius wrote: »

Well it’s hardly the climstremists, sure they’re probably the ones feeding her the dud drugs.

You have no idea, neither do the headbangers, your gullible to believe, on Twitter either.

Professor Genius

SaintLeibowitz wrote: »

You have no idea, neither do the headbangers, your gullible to believe, on Twitter either.

Try again (in English please) as I can’t understand what you are trying to say

Pa ElGrande

KyussB wrote: »

Our own official geological surveys support flooding projections on O'Connell street:
https://www.gsi.ie/documents/Potential_flooding_areas_in_Dublin_projected_by2100.pdf

That is fake news. 1.98 Meters in 80 years means an average rise 24.75 mm per annum which are values not supported by actual sea level rise and fall measurements.

SaintLeibowitz

Professor Genius wrote: »

Try again (in English please) as I can’t understand what you are trying to say

No need to repeat myself.