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Fire in Douglas - See Mod note in post #506

BurnsCarpenter

Anyone know what's going on? Looks close to m & s maybe.

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lostinsuperfunk

Imagine this: Don't rebuild the centre or reopen the road. Plant trees to screen off the N40. Take the Douglas river out of the culvert and turn the whole area into a landscaped riverside park. Include open space for the market, some surface parking, and some retail outlets for small retailers and cafés.

Not going to happen in a million years though!

the beer revolu

lostinsuperfunk wrote: »

Imagine this: Don't rebuild the centre or reopen the road. Plant trees to screen off the N40. Take the Douglas river out of the culvert and turn the whole area into a landscaped riverside park. Include open space for the market, some surface parking, and some retail outlets for small retailers and cafés.

Not going to happen in a million years though!

What?
Actually make Douglas nice again??

You're crazy!

TheBully

Dbu wrote: »

Yes traffic in Douglas has been flowing freely since this road has been closed.

Only flowing freely because people are not shopping in Douglas.

zilog_jones

lostinsuperfunk wrote: »

Imagine this: Don't rebuild the centre or reopen the road. Plant trees to screen off the N40. Take the Douglas river out of the culvert and turn the whole area into a landscaped riverside park. Include open space for the market, some surface parking, and some retail outlets for small retailers and cafés.

Not going to happen in a million years though!

The shopping centre isn't being demolished...

snotboogie

lostinsuperfunk wrote: »

Imagine this: Don't rebuild the centre or reopen the road. Plant trees to screen off the N40. Take the Douglas river out of the culvert and turn the whole area into a landscaped riverside park. Include open space for the market, some surface parking, and some retail outlets for small retailers and cafés.

Not going to happen in a million years though!

If you're going to go that far at least ditch the surface parking.

Dbu

TheBully wrote: »

Only flowing freely because people are not shopping in Douglas.

Morning traffic (school and work traffic) has not changed and flows 10 times better at that hour since that section of road closed

hans aus dtschl

TheBully wrote: »

Only flowing freely because people are not shopping in Douglas.

I don't know if that's necessarily true. The traffic flow to/from the shopping centre wasn't all that huge from what I saw. I will admit that i wasn't there often though.

grogi

Classic Braess' paradox

hans aus dtschl

grogi wrote: »

Classic Braess' paradox

That's what I think also.

AugustusMinimus

It’s not that hard to understand. The closed road caused huge issues for north - south traffic. We have inadequate junctions with several sets of traffic lights in much too close proximity.

No doubt in my mind that this would improve traffic flow for most users.

Dbu

The whole Douglas road and lights network as a whole is woeful, probably designed remotely from Belmullet;)
For example it took months to convince the County council that the lights between Barrys and O'Driscolls are better being left permanently switched off.

Chris_5339762

lostinsuperfunk wrote: »

Imagine this: Don't rebuild the centre or reopen the road. Plant trees to screen off the N40. Take the Douglas river out of the culvert and turn the whole area into a landscaped riverside park. Include open space for the market, some surface parking, and some retail outlets for small retailers and cafés.

Not going to happen in a million years though!

Demolish the center and widen the Douglas Viaduct on the N40! Make the remainder in to a park.

Cork Trucker

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Demolish the center and widen the Douglas Viaduct on the N40! Make the remainder in to a park.

With Douglas Court so near and now picking up the lost business of the village shopping centre this wouldn't be a bad idea, but all the council are interested in is revenue intake.

dulpit

Cork Trucker wrote: »

With Douglas Court so near and now picking up the lost business of the village shopping centre this wouldn't be a bad idea, but all the council are interested in is revenue intake.

But dunnes is rubbish compared to tesco. And having an enclosed car park was a godsend for those of us with small children..

Cork Trucker

dulpit wrote: »

But dunnes is rubbish compared to tesco. And having an enclosed car park was a godsend for those of us with small children..

I’ve a load of small children myself. Tesco is a kip.

beer enigma

I'd be amazed if Tesco go back in with the market share they've probably lost, Additionally both Dunnes and Tesco will lose some sales to the new Aldi.

Personally I'm not a lover of Dunnes and now drive up to Supervalu Grange as its a lovely store and has the Aldi next to it. I doubt I'd change back to Tesco even if they do reopen.

snotboogie

beer enigma wrote: »

I'd be amazed if Tesco go back in with the market share they've probably lost, Additionally both Dunnes and Tesco will lose some sales to the new Aldi.

Personally I'm not a lover of Dunnes and now drive up to Supervalu Grange as its a lovely store and has the Aldi next to it. I doubt I'd change back to Tesco even if they do reopen.

They wouldn't rebuild without Tesco committing. I'm pretty sure Tesco publicly committed shortly after the fire. Nothing at all has happened on the cinema site, despite aldi promising to be open by March

kub

snotboogie wrote: »

They wouldn't rebuild without Tesco committing. I'm pretty sure Tesco publicly committed shortly after the fire. Nothing at all has happened on the cinema site, despite aldi promising to be open by March

MMD Construction are working on site where the cinema building is, so it is work in progress.

Cork Trucker

kub wrote: »

MMD Construction are working on site where the cinema building is, so it is work in progress.

Are Apcoa in charge of that car park for the time being? Was full yesterday morning.

kub

Cork Trucker wrote: »

Are Apcoa in charge of that car park for the time being? Was full yesterday morning.

They used to be up to around 12 months ago AFAIK, I suppose people are chancing it now and it will only get busier.

rebel.ranter

kub wrote: »

They used to be up to around 12 months ago AFAIK, I suppose people are chancing it now and it will only get busier.

APCOA haven’t managed the car park for 12 months as you say, it’s been a clamper free zone since. Douglas needs the spaces right now with the multi-storey out of action.

calnand

rebel.ranter wrote: »

APCOA haven’t managed the car park for 12 months as you say, it’s been a clamper free zone since. Douglas needs the spaces right now with the multi-storey out of action.

Really? I parked there the other day for an hour and it's still listed on their app, so I paid the 1.40.

Hibernicis

Has anybody heard anything about the progress being made in the shopping centre ?

Cork Trucker

Hibernicis wrote: »

Has anybody heard anything about the progress being made in the shopping centre ?

On the RedFM website that it will reopen in August

Dbu

Cork Trucker wrote: »

On the RedFM website that it will reopen in August

That in my opinion would be a minor miracle
Demolition is not even completed yet

Hibernicis

Hibernicis wrote: »

Has anybody heard anything from a reliable source about the progress being made in the shopping centre ?

Fixing my original post

grogi

Cork Trucker wrote: »

On the RedFM website that it will reopen in August

Did they say which year?

Cape Clear

Cork Trucker wrote: »

On the RedFM website that it will reopen in August

Which decade?

lawrencesummers

Cape Clear wrote: »

Which decade?

Redfm typically operates in the 80’s.

Hibernicis

Some photos showing the extent of the demolition as of last week

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/New-images-of-fire-damaged-Cork-shopping-centre-show-extent-of-demolition-works-08adf28e-55ce-4c91-99a0-4755064ab68d-ds

Still talking about a summer 2020 reopening