Last Stop wrote: » I’m not splitting hairs. I don’t have to repeat what the OP said again. There was no reference to changing timetables or anything other than enforcement of bus lanes. That on its own wouldn’t result in the figures suggested.
MJohnston wrote: » So you think we shouldn't enforce bus lanes? You seem to really struggle with answering questions
MJohnston wrote: » What you're saying here could almost be in the dictionary as a definition of "splitting hairs"
Last Stop wrote: » No, of course there should be enforcement but the results of this are being grossly exaggerated
MJohnston wrote: » Glad we can finally all agree that enforcement is necessary. As for 'gross exaggeration', well that's just your opinion, which I see no reason to respect or trust as informed or educated.
Last Stop wrote: » That’s your opinion. In my opinion the original post was misleading
Last Stop wrote: » Have you any source to suggest that the figures quoted are not exaggerated?
LeinsterDub wrote: » Enforcement, would have 3 primary benefits. 1) improved journey times 2) improved frequency (after the timetables are updated) 3) improved consistency Over the course of route all you need is a 6 minute saving for it to be a 10% improvement. On a route with a 6 minute frequency you would be able to run at 5 minute frequency. 18% improvement. In my personal opinion many of the routes in the city could easily get a 15 minute improvement fairly easily.
MJohnston wrote: » Have you a source to suggest that they *are*? See how childish this game is?
Last Stop wrote: » If you can’t provide a source that’s fine but based on my research there is little to no evidence to suggest that the benefits are anything of the magnitude suggested. In fact, it’s difficult to find any evidence of a reduction at all, most articles citing the amount of fines issued by bus lane enforcement which would suggest that it doesn’t work that well at all.
Officials say the new 14th Street Truck & Transit Priority lanes have contributed to a 38% decrease in travel times and a ridership jump to more than 32,000 daily customers
MJohnston wrote: » Source?
LeinsterDub wrote: » Let's imagine a bus company has 12 buses. They run 6 buses up and down each hour. The journey takes an hour. The maximum frequency they can achieve is 6 buses per hour per direction . Now the city decides to introduce a bus lane. The journey time becomes 30 minutes. The frequency can be upped to 9 buses an hour per direction
CatInABox wrote: » Consultation extended. Not sure by how much, there really hasn't been as much outcry about it this time at all, so I haven't really kept track of it at all. The only real disappointment I have with it is the H spine, it's a bit of a missed opportunity to do something more with the city centre end of it, and the fact that it completely ignores all the evidence that Jarrett Walker compiled about how spine services shouldn't end in the city centre.https://twitter.com/BusConnects/status/1199657389038931969
CatInABox wrote: » The only real disappointment I have with it is the H spine, it's a bit of a missed opportunity to do something more with the city centre end of it, and the fact that it completely ignores all the evidence that Jarrett Walker compiled about how spine services shouldn't end in the city centre.
Thinkingaboutit wrote: » I gave my spake on the deadline. The main two routes for me seem similar to the 150 and 54A, although the old 83, which got me over to Finglas / Glasnevin would be two routes at least, with a changeover near Stephen's Green.
danielle_door wrote: » https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= We got a nice big colour pamphlet with a secrion of map.. I had a look and i am confused by the number 8.. Airport to mount merrion via o'Connell street, the text says Checked the live route map online and does not go near o'Connell street at all... which route do i believe ? D
CatInABox wrote: » The 8 goes from Merrion Sq, not Mount Merrion. Other than that, what's most likely happening is that the route mapper is giving you the fastest route out to the airport, instead of the most direct. This mapper is also including waiting time, usually calculated at half the frequency, i.e. a bus every 10 minutes gives a wait time of 5 minutes.
danielle_door wrote: » Sorry Merrion sq No its not the fastest route ithe map shows the route the 8 will take ,which is down consitiution hill left onto the quays then onto dame street and up georges street, follows the 83 path. For the elderly on that 8 new route it misses out on the mater, dorset street, o'Connell street doiler street.. Not sure why they feel is a better path now... the 9 was a much more direct bus than the new 8
elmoslats wrote: » Kilkenny are getting free interchange before Dublin. "For the first three months of operation, a promotional TFI Leap fare of €1 will be in place. TFI Leap fares will then be €1.40 for adults and €0.84 for children. Cash fares are €2.00 for adults and €1.20 for children. All fares include a transfer function, allowing passengers to interchange between KK1 and KK2 free of charge."https://www.transportforireland.ie/news/new-kilkenny-city-bus-services-to-commence-on-18-december/
p_haugh wrote: » Could be that TFI are testing this out before rolling it out elsewhere. Remember, Cork also got a 24 hour bus route before Dublin did.
