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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 4

Hulk Hands

The comparison was silly. Walsh could be argued as the worst of those three and Mayo sacrificed their best player on Saturday to follow him everywhere. If Walsh jumped into the first row of concrete benches around the edge, Keegan would've hopped in beside him. Hardly conductive to getting easy space and ball

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jr86

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Gallagher didn't get it. No surprised really as to be honest he is not considered in the best light by a lot of North Mayo GAA people despite what he would like you to think.

Indeed - being an actual member of a club would be a nice start in future

irishgeo

The pro was only taking orders you would guess but the donkey commet is a bit worrying.

RedDevil55

irishgeo wrote: »

The pro was only taking orders you would guess but the donkey commet is a bit worrying.

It was the treasurer Kevin O'Toole that sent the donkey email. Cunnane was responsible for the music choice at the underdogs game. In fairness to Cunnane, he's done a good job over the last few years apart from that. Setting up mayo gaa tv for one thing. There's no way of knowing if Gallagher would do any better.

RedDevil55

Banner2theend wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newportmayo1951/status/1206256762782994434

Does that mean he's dropping the lawsuit?

Green&Red

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Does that mean he's dropping the lawsuit?

Certainly seems to be the case. Glad he’s clarified that he doesn’t want a place on the executive

Coillte_Bhoy

RedDevil55 wrote: »

It was the treasurer Kevin O'Toole that sent the donkey email. Cunnane was responsible for the music choice at the underdogs game. In fairness to Cunnane, he's done a good job over the last few years apart from that. Setting up mayo gaa tv for one thing. There's no way of knowing if Gallagher would do any better.

Cunnane is very highly thought of and is doing a very good job as PRO, the song thing was a bit of a **** up alright, a misjudgement, no big deal imo

PressRun

Liam Moffatt was O'Leary's pick for chairman, btw. He supposedly approached a few clubs. Make of that what you will. I think he has somewhat enjoyed the attention that this controversy has brought on him. He has every right to know how his money is being managed and spent and the county board absolutely needed to be brought to heel and held accountable, even if that meant public embarrassmet. Whether it's right for a donor to be attempting to influence clubs to make moves in his favour is another matter.

Regardless, I think Moffatt should be fine and his good relationship with the senior management should be a positive. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he had a hand in Ciaran McDonald's decision to join the senior set up.

The county board absolutely needed a clear out and several faces needed to step away. Not surprised the Michael Gallagher didn't get the PRO job, but I would have reservations about Cunnane. Rumours about him being the leak to the Connacht Telegraph.

PressRun

Unrelated, but supposedly Jason Doherty's recovery is going very well. Will probably be held back for the league, but he is in good shape, I'm told.

seligehgit

PressRun wrote: »

Liam Moffatt was O'Leary's pick for chairman, btw. He supposedly approached a few clubs. Make of that what you will. I think he has somewhat enjoyed the attention that this controversy has brought on him. He has every right to know how his money is being managed and spent and the county board absolutely needed to be brought to heel and held accountable, even if that meant public embarrassmet. Whether it's right for a donor to be attempting to influence clubs to make moves in his favour is another matter.

Regardless, I think Moffatt should be fine and his good relationship with the senior management should be a positive. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he had a hand in Ciaran McDonald's decision to join the senior set up.

The county board absolutely needed a clear out and several faces needed to step away. Not surprised the Michael Gallagher didn't get the PRO job, but I would have reservations about Cunnane. Rumours about him being the leak to the Connacht Telegraph.

Totally agree if it is true he attempted to influence clubs as suggested.

TBF irrespective of same it appears there was undoubtedly a groundswell of support for change within the executive amongst the grassroots of Mayo GAA.

Which leak do you speak of PressRun?

PressRun

seligehgit wrote: »

Totally agree if it is true he attempted to influence clubs as suggested.

TBF irrespective of same it appears there was undoubtedly a groundswell of support for change within the executive amongst the grassroots of Mayo GAA.

Which leak do you speak of PressRun?

There absolutely was an appetite for change across Mayo GAA regardless.

Leaks to the Connacht Telegraph regarding team selection, things going on behind the scenes, etc.

seligehgit

Decent resume article in today's Sunday Times.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mayo-facing-legal-battle-they-cannot-afford-p6z02990m

It will be welcome if Liam Moffatt or more so the new treasurer Valerie Murphy are invited to become a trustee on the International Foundation.

PARlance

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Gallagher didn't get it. No surprised really as to be honest he is not considered in the best light by a lot of North Mayo GAA people despite what he would like you to think.

Don't know too much about him but it seemed a weird push for the role from him. Saw a video he did urging delegates for their votes... just seemed odd.

FullBack Jam

Hard to know what to make of all of this. But it’s difficult to argue against the point that the final outcome is welcome. I know some of the county board members, and there are self-important egos there. Unfortunately for them, this Tim dude seems to have as big of an ego, and in a stubborn way. He wasn’t going to lie down.
I haven’t spoken to Liam Moffatt for many a year, but from what I remember he is a very genuine chap, and has a real passion for football. I think he will steer away from the cloak and dagger rubbish, and will take things forward in a position manner. He has been involved in the backroom staff of the county management previously, so he has a tie in there. And he’s from the same club as Ciaran Mac, and same age, so may have been an influence in get the Mac into the fold.
Anyway, whilst the publicity is not good for the county, I think the county board setup is in a better place now.
In any case, it’s not the county board that will be taking to the pitches from January through to September (hopefully). So it is a bit of a side-show.

GreenandRed

flasher0030 wrote: »

Hard to know what to make of all of this. But it’s difficult to argue against the point that the final outcome is welcome. I know some of the county board members, and there are self-important egos there. Unfortunately for them, this Tim dude seems to have as big of an ego, and in a stubborn way. He wasn’t going to lie down.
I haven’t spoken to Liam Moffatt for many a year, but from what I remember he is a very genuine chap, and has a real passion for football. I think he will steer away from the cloak and dagger rubbish, and will take things forward in a position manner. He has been involved in the backroom staff of the county management previously, so he has a tie in there. And he’s from the same club as Ciaran Mac, and same age, so may have been an influence in get the Mac into the fold.
Anyway, whilst the publicity is not good for the county, I think the county board setup is in a better place now.
In any case, it’s not the county board that will be taking to the pitches from January through to September (hopefully). So it is a bit of a side-show.

As a man who helped raise large amounts of money for Mayo GAA some of it from himself , Tim O'Leary is absolutely entitled to query how his 150K donation was spent.

We'll wait and see how this version of the county board performs. Not forgetting that previous county boards shafted Kevin McStay twice, Mickey Moran and Stephen Rochfords and nobody seemed to question their motives at that time.

White lighting

Not from Mayo but O'Leary comes across as an awful clown. I am sure there were many mishandled funds by the county board but he is getting too big for his boots and seems awful self centered. Anyway his little show the last few months i dont think will do Mayo much good in the long run

WesternZulu

White lighting wrote: »

Not from Mayo but O'Leary comes across as an awful clown. I am sure there were many mishandled funds by the county board but he is getting too big for his boots and seems awful self centered. Anyway his little show the last few months i dont think will do Mayo much good in the long run

He donated considerable money to Mayo GAA, he is perfectly entitled to act in the way he has.
The county board are the ones who have gotten too big for their boots and think they can act without impunity.

ProudDUB

irishgeo wrote: »

The pro was only taking orders you would guess but the donkey commet is a bit worrying.

Putting his foot in it again by taking a pop at Newstalk. How dare they have the temerity to question the wisdom of the recent media ban. Is he still only taking orders? Lord above !

Bunny Colvin

ProudDUB wrote: »

Putting his foot in it again by taking a pop at Newstalk. How dare they have the temerity to question the wisdom of the recent media ban. Is he still only taking orders? Lord above !

I wouldn't mind but the segment he was talking about was harmless in the extreme. How anyone could see it as an attack on Mayo GAA is crazy.

ProudDUB

I thought it was very funny. Maybe that's easy to say as it wasn't my own county being slagged off. But it was still very tame in the extreme. Worrying for the new Chairman imo. If the mindset remains in the Executive that anyone who goes against them at all, for any reason, is The Enemy and must always be attacked, it will take a lot more than a change of Chairman to keep the county board out of the papers. He's only one man. He can only do so much.

wirelessdude01

Sure I even remember at the time that Aido retweeted that video. It was very tongue in cheek.

PARlance

WITHIN two days of taking over at the helm of Mayo GAA County Board chairman, Liam Moffatt is faced with his first major controversy due to a vote-counting error during the contest for the board's two Connaught Council delegates, The Connaught Telegraph has learned.

Following the vote for these two positions at Sunday's annual GAA convention in Belmullet, both Vincent Neary, Bonniconlon, and Ardnaree's Johnny O'Malley were declared elected.

The two candidates to lose out were Johnny Hopkins, The Neale, and Ger McHugh, Hollymount/Carramore.

However, The Connaught Telegraph has learned that it has now come to light that a mistake was made during the counting of votes and, as a result, the outcome of the contest was incorrect.

For such contests the PR system is used to get the result. In this case, this is where the mistake was made.

After the first count was concluded Vincent Neary had exceeded the quota. Count two saw his surplus distributed among the three remaining candidates.

Count three then saw the candidate with the lowest number of votes, Ger McHugh, being eliminated and his votes distributed.

But it is here where the count went wrong in that McHugh's number twos were divided among the other three candidates, including Vincent Neary who was already elected.

Neary should not have been involved in the count at this stage and any number two votes that Neary was to get from McHugh should go to the whichever candidates got McHugh's number threes.

If this had been rightly done it would have placed Hopkins ahead of O'Malley and put him as the second Connaught Council delegate.

When contacted by The Connaught Telegate today, both Johnny Hopkins and Johnny O'Malley were aware of the mistake made during the count.

But both said they were keeping a watching brief as to what steps the county board takes to try and solve this serious mistake.

It is understood Mr. Hopkins is expecting that there will be a full recount which would see him elected as one of the two Connaught Council delegates.

On the other hand Mr. O'Malley will be looking at the case whereby he was declared elected at the convention and won't want this overturned.

It looks as if this major problem might take a bit of solving and certainly leaves the new chairman Liam Moffatt with a serious first major headache.

PARlance

^^^

A day old but hadn't been posted.

As someone quite brilliantly commented on the CT Facebook page.... "the miscounty board"

Blackjack

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Sure I even remember at the time that Aido retweeted that video. It was very tongue in cheek.

Yeah it seems to have been a daft thing to get focus on, given there’s a prominent loudmouth from Derry who has a relationship with the former logistics manager (if she could be described as that, given it was a role apparently carried out in an appalling lot poor manner) who consistently writes half truths and outright bull sheet about particular players.

The vote counting thing is unfortunate and just adds to the fuel for this sort of stuff. It’s a minor distraction that wouldn’t be making any column inches if it weren’t for the rest of the circus.

[Deleted User]

Ah for God sake, understanding and counting PR is tough enough, most of us struggle with it the day after an election and then have forgotten the nuance of it a few days later.

Why would the county board burden themselves with it after all that has gone on this winter.

IEven though I am no fan of Bertie Ahern he did act as referendum commission president in an Independence referendum in some Papua New Guinea island this last few weeks.

He should have been in Belmullet to overasee all this.

RedDevil55

Mayo players break silence on recent events...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/odonoghue-says-ruane-focus-is-with-mayo-971085.html

naughto

White lighting wrote: »

Not from Mayo but O'Leary comes across as an awful clown. I am sure there were many mishandled funds by the county board but he is getting too big for his boots and seems awful self centered. Anyway his little show the last few months i dont think will do Mayo much good in the long run

Much good we got rid of some of the rot on the board and have Liam trying to steady the ship.
The thing I keep asking is where would we be with out O’Leary’s money a million a yr for next 5 yrs is some change.
The 23k a month debt it madness for what we got out of it in my opinion.
They didn’t even bother there holes with a new PA system

muddle84

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Mayo players break silence on recent events...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/odonoghue-says-ruane-focus-is-with-mayo-971085.html

Ah good one!!! Eoin O'Donoghue saying absolutely nothing at all is hardly the players breaking their silence!!!

Call me Al

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Mayo players break silence on recent events...

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/odonoghue-says-ruane-focus-is-with-mayo-971085.html

Recent events?
He talks about Matthew Ruane for a bit, mentions McDonald, and very diplomatically declines the question about "recent events".

RedDevil55

Call me Al wrote: »

Recent events?
He talks about Matthew Ruane for a bit, mentions McDonald, and very diplomatically declines the question about "recent events".

It was a tongue in cheek comment. Apologies, I thought that was obvious.

GreenandRed

RedDevil55 wrote: »

It was a tongue in cheek comment. Apologies, I thought that was obvious.

Very obvious in fairness.