‘We understand the need for a motorway – the traffic is absolutely chaotic in the morning – but we are against the current plans because they go right through the top of the slopes,’ he added. ‘We’re asking to bring the highway further down so we can protect the landscape.’ Glen o’ the Downs is one of Ireland’s greatest beauty spots, boasting a 2km-long wooded glacial valley.
marno21 wrote: » https://extra.ie/2019/12/12/news/irish-news/mary-coughlan-wicklow-motorway The usual. We want a motorway but not anywhere near us. Yet everywhere the motorway can go is near them.
Limerick74 wrote: » “Shock as golf club learns clubhouse and course are in path of proposed upgrade of road”https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/shock-as-golf-club-learns-clubhouse-and-course-are-in-path-of-proposed-upgrade-of-road-38791446.html
prunudo wrote: » Shock horror, people getting animated about road improvements in their area but are delighted with getting to Cork or Galway in 2hrs on high quality roads.
loyatemu wrote: » What's proposed won't save any significant time on those sort of journeys. Unless you're travelling at rush-hour, and even then, only until the traffic expands to fill the extra capacity, which will probably take about 5 years. there's 20 kilometres of "M11 gap", most of which is 100km/h dual-carriageway (there's about 1km of 60km/h through Kilmac). Even if the new road is all 120km/h it will save about 3 minutes.
prunudo wrote: » Apologises, meant more that they have little concern for the people who had houses or land cpo'ed or were affected by the building of a high quality safe roads in other parts of the country.
prunudo wrote: » I've heard that Arup have already contacted some effected landowners and organising one2one meetings to hear individual issues and concerns. Seems like a very thorough process despite what the fb posts would have you believe.
loyatemu wrote: » Even if the new road is all 120km/h it will save about 3 minutes.
schmittel wrote: » Although presented as meetings to hear individual issues and concerns, the purpose of the meetings was for Arup to find out the issues and concerns that will affect them, not the landowners! The reason they want to meet every single landowner is to find out location of water mains, gas pipes, protected species of bats etc.
prunudo wrote: » Can't really argue with them about that, surely its prudent to get local knowledge about certain issues that may arise. From talking to a couple of people who were called to these one2one meetings, notes were being taken about the residents concerns. But it was very much in the constraints of the various route options and no real indication of which way they were thinking, a case of everything is on the table and nothing being ruled in or out.
schmittel wrote: » I think meetings that were attended by WCC personnel may have been very different than those attended by ARUP. I had one of these meetings with two Arup guys, and very few notes were taken. it was also noticeable that they rushed to defend any criticism of one particular route, and were much less vocal in response to any comment on the other two. I have spoken to others who had WCC reps and their impressions were very much in line with what you say.
Reuben1210 wrote: » Which route did you sense they were defensive about?
schmittel wrote: » Red - i.e upgrading/widening existing corridor.
Bus Éireann 40.4 million up 13.8% (+4.9 million) DB and Go-Ahead combined 151.9 million up 7.4% (+10.5 million)
marno21 wrote: » Construction contract signed for Phase 1 of this scheme, the parallel service road at Kilmacanogue. Awarded to SIAC Construction, will take 6-9 months to complete.https://wicklownews.net/2020/01/contract-signed-for-kilmacanogue-parallel-service-road/
Reuben1210 wrote: » Any map of the route?
nordydan wrote: » Map here:http://193.178.30.116/idocswebDPSS/ViewFiles.aspx?docid=253214&format=djvu
josip wrote: » Thanks, but not displaying for me in either Firefox or Chrome.
