El_Duderino 09 wrote: I appreciate a poster who's Interested in new info, man or woman. You seem to think that's worthy of mockery which is telling.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » I appreciate a poster who's Interested in new info, man or woman. You seem to think that's worthy of mockery which is telling.
RWCNT wrote: If this bloke slapped a woman in the face would people on here be suggesting he doesn't deserve legal ramifications and that calling it assault, as its legally defined, is an insult to women who've been punched, kicked or hit with sledgehammers?
Candie wrote: A few have stated that he's not a criminal, he clearly is. Nobody can go around belting people for fun, anywhere on their body. If it's not harmless to slap someone across the face on the street, then it's not harmless to slap them on their rear on the street.
Candie wrote: » A few have stated that he's not a criminal, he clearly is. Nobody can go around belting people for fun, anywhere on their body. If it's not harmless to slap someone across the face on the street, then it's not harmless to slap them on their rear on the street.
Homelander wrote: » It's not and never was that black and white. Again, people are ignoring the difference between an ill-judged moment and a malice-intended moment. Guy jogs past a woman and slaps her ass. Wrong? Yes, entirely, he shouldn't have done it, it was idiotic, though equally I recognise that there was no inherent malice behind it, just a play for a camera. You've said he's clearly a criminal, as defined by the techicality of law. I don't like that black and white interpretation, at all.
Screw Attack wrote: » Tough luck, s hit for brains. It's why we don't let people like you decide on laws. This creep deserves to be charged and nonces like you can attend his little cheerleader section at court. Cry on.
Reviews and Books Galore wrote: » ...Are you seriously saying that I think women aren't worth apreciation?
Ironicname wrote: » Why? The law is the law. Your opinion means nothing.
Homelander wrote: » Grand. People like you and I can't decide laws, therefore the application of same should be beyond question. The law is the law. Fair enough. That's a viewpoint. Since you're that black/white and fixated on law, therefore, someone who knowingly gropes someones ass in a wanton sexual context, versus someone who pats an ass in a "please move" context, are entirely equal? If we follow the letter of the law, in the strictest technical sense, both are identical and should therefore be punished identically. With zero regard that two scenarios could arise - one, in which someone pats anothers ass in a non-sexual "move please" gesture, verus someone who approaches another, with sexuality in mind, and gropes their behind. You didn't address my example. Where a colleague patted me on the rear and asked me to move. Now, I didn't and don't mind contextually because, frankly, to any logical mind, it was a non event. However, if we go down the rabbit hole of the law being the indisputable law with zero regard for context, that was sexual assault.
jam_mac_jam wrote: » Good. Don't slap strangers asses
Homelander wrote: » It's not and never was that black and white. Again, people are ignoring the difference between an ill-judged moment and a malice-intended moment. Guy jogs past a woman and slaps her ass. Wrong? Yes, entirely, he shouldn't have done it, it was idiotic, though equally I recognise that there was no inherent malice behind it, just a play for a camera. Did he deserve the subsequent viral infamy? Sure, yes I think he did. But this movement painting him as Ted Bundy Junior?
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The bit in bold is a perfect example of the exaggeration. Nobody has painted him out to be a big time sexual predator. But he did slap someone on the arse which carries a charge called sexual battery in the state where he did it. Being his first offence it would be treated as a misdemeanor and he'll most likely get a slap on the wrist. If he also gets some automatic punishments for conviction of a sexual crime, like disqualification from working with vulnerable people, then that's unfortunate and harsh. But that's how it is and it's a good rule to protect the vulnerable in general. People who didn't take slapping strangers arses seriously in the past, will probably take it a bit more seriously after hearing about this incident and be less likely to do it in future, so that's something good to come from it.
Sarahdunners wrote: » What I really don't understand is why women are so disrespected in Ireland. I hear many men talking about women in such terrible, terrible ways. Women gave birth to you. Women give birth to all life. Women should be respected. And men should be respected.
elperello wrote: » You can't be doing that.
Dakota Dan wrote: » Her life is changed forever it will never again be the same.
ohnonotgmail wrote: » that poster did the same thing in a recent thread about a stalker.
gmisk wrote: » I just read that the guy who slapped her ass...is a youth Minister and a boy scout troop leader...so he is totally f#cked! Maybe this incident will make some other people think before randomly slapping a total stranger!
[Deleted User] wrote: » Here is your problem. You feel you are being disrespected because you are a woman. It's not because of that. You are being disrespected because people don't respect you. Respect has to be earned and reciprocated. Can you not see that? Judging solely on your previous posts on this thread, it is clear that you have an issue with men based on past experiences. That is understandable, but what you don't seem to realise is that not everyone has had your experiences and not everyone is so perpetually offended by lewd remarks about sex. If you can't see outside the lens of your own experiences, you will always see the worst in people (men especially) And unfortunately, the more you speak like you do, the more disrespect you will be shown and to be quite honest, I can't blame people for not respecting you when you generalise and show distain for groups of people based on the actions of a select few.
Reviews and Books Galore wrote: » I find it interesting how expandable he is to the people here. It's like, destroy his life, the life of someone who actually might be doing good as a youth minister, and as a father, to teach men a lesson. Sure, you can say he brought it on himself, but the reporter is taking a level of sadism here that is hard to tolerate. As I've said before, the level of punishment here is if a man grabbed a 'sexual assaulting' woman and beat her up for a few hours and made her unable to work for a few years. What person would say that sadism is appropriate? Edit: I also find it very suspicious that it was downgraded to assault and her lawyer told her not to post on twitter. I kind of believe he was going to slap her back tbh. Well, believes a strong word, but it is plausible enough to just accept the apology rather than ruin a man's life tbh.
Sarahdunners wrote: » No. I am not talking just for myself. As I said previously, I have met many, many women in Ireland who have been sexually assaulted. It is a big problem. Don't bury your head in the sand over this.
dubstarr wrote: » I find it interesting how expandable he is to the people here. It's like, destroy his life, the life of someone who actually might be doing good as a youth minister, and as a father, to teach men a lesson.Nobody destroyed his life.Whats happening now,is of his own making.
Deleted User wrote: » Again, you have chosen to misrepresent what has been said. I never said you feel like you are speaking for yourself, in fact, my point was that you are attempting to speak for all women, and all women do not feel the same as you. And it is dangerous, and frankly stupid, to think you have some sort of affinity to, and be the spokesperson for all people who happen to possess the same genitalia as you. I am sure you have met people who share your experiences. I'm positive you have met more that don't. I have never said that sexual assault is not an issue so I don't know why you assumed I am burying my head in the sand. But you seem to think that all women deserve respect for the sole reason that they are a woman. That will not and can not ever happen. Respect has to be earned, regardless of gender.
Sarahdunners wrote: » I was thinking today, I have heard alot of men talk about women in a sexually violent way. Including here on After hours, I have often seen men talking about women in sexually violent and degrading ways. And I was thinking, why? I saw this in a research article today , it said: "Psychoanalysts opine that deep down, men are convinced of a woman’s inferiority, and are traumatised when she seems to hold power over them through her sexuality. The act of sex brings out the worst in men because men fear the sexual power a woman holds over them. A man’s desire and need for a woman, brings with it his dependence on her, and he fears she may reduce the male sense of power and control, which he wields in almost every sphere of life — politics, society, home, office. And so, he sees her as the enemy who must be beaten down, subjugated in order to establish his own sway." So it is because some men want women so badly, that they then feel vulnerable. They don't like feeling vulnerable - and then they talk about women in aggressive, violent terms. What do you think?
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