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Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

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Continued from here
https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057953711/251
All Ireland Senior XV related talk here.

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aloooof

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Who would you like to see in his place?

I think it’s a bit more than half a game

I think he means 1 or 2 games, not 1/2 a game.

Shefwedfan

aloooof wrote: »

I think he means 1 or 2 games, not 1/2 a game.

Opp's sorry

In terms of replacement who?

P.S. I am a huge fan of Nordi

Stout Warrior

I don’t have a horse in the race just highlighting the sample size is not that big. I suppose it’s what we’re constantly asking for at Leinster to give up and coming players a punt.

Stout Warrior

aloooof wrote: »

I think he means 1 or 2 games, not 1/2 a game.

Bingo

Shefwedfan

The call after the WC was to pick young and in form players

First camp, players out of form get dropped and it starts!!!

I though Nordi myself would have done enough but any of the rest of the calls seem ok in my eyes. Personally I wouldn't have brought in Toner

In regards to the back row, it is clear the options at the WC was not good enough. So yes I think they need to look at what to do, back row is critical to Ireland.....

b.gud

Anyone see the revised squad? Definitely some ballsy calls in it

[Deleted User]

Is Billy Burns not English born and raised?... why are we picking him?.
That brings the project player to new levels unless I'm missing something here ðŸ˜•

bilston

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Is Billy Burns not English born and raised?... why are we picking him?.
That brings the project player to new levels unless I'm missing something here &#55357;&#56853;

He is IQ. Not a project player.

bilston

Luke Marshall and Eric O'Sullivan are unlucky, although in Marshall's case there are a few midfield options. I'm definitely surprised O'Sullivan isn't involved though given there are only two LHs.

salmocab

gilberto_eire wrote: »

Is Billy Burns not English born and raised?... why are we picking him?.
That brings the project player to new levels unless I'm missing something here ðŸ˜•

He’s not a project player and if he was it wouldn’t be any new level anyway.

awec

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The call after the WC was to pick young and in form players

First camp, players out of form get dropped and it starts!!!

I though Nordi myself would have done enough but any of the rest of the calls seem ok in my eyes. Personally I wouldn't have brought in Toner

In regards to the back row, it is clear the options at the WC was not good enough. So yes I think they need to look at what to do, back row is critical to Ireland.....

What has started? Nobody seems to be complaining, just highlighting a few players who can count themselves unlucky and a few surprising inclusions.

[Deleted User]

Lot's of things interesting about this.

Here is Joe's first six nations squad.

Rodney Ah You (Buccaneers/Connacht)*

Stephen Archer (Cork Constitution/Munster)

Rory Best (Banbridge/Ulster)

Robin Copeland (Cardiff Blues)*

Sean Cronin (St. Mary's College/Leinster)

Robbie Diack (Malone/Ulster)*

Cian Healy (Clontarf/Leinster)

Jamie Heaslip (Dublin University/Leinster)

Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster)

Chris Henry (Malone/Ulster)

Rob Herring (Ballinahinch/Ulster)*

David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster)

Mike McCarthy (Leinster)

Jack McGrath (St. Mary's College/Leinster)

Martin Moore (Lansdowne/Leinster)*

Jordi Murphy (Lansdowne/Leinster)*

Paul O'Connell (Young Munster/Munster)

Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster)

Peter O'Mahony (Cork Constitution/Munster)

Mike Ross (Clontarf/Leinster)

Rhys Ruddock (St Mary's College/Leinster)

Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster)

Dan Tuohy (Ballymena/Ulster)

Damian Varley (Garryowen/Munster)

Backs (20)

Isaac Boss (Terenure College/Leinster)

Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)

Gordon D'Arcy (Lansdowne/Leinster)

Keith Earls (Young Munster/Munster)

Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/Leinster)

Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)

Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster)

Felix Jones (Shannon/Munster)

David Kearney (Lansdowne/Leinster)

Rob Kearney (UCD/Leinster)

Ian Keatley (Young Munster/Munster)

Ian Madigan (Blackrock College/Leinster)

Kieran Marmion (Corinthians/Connacht)*

Luke Marshall (Ballymena/Ulster)

Fergus McFadden (Old Belvedere/Leinster)

Conor Murray (Garryowen/Munster)

Brian O'Driscoll (UCD/Leinster)

Eoin Reddan (Lansdowne/Leinster)

Jonathan Sexton (Racing Metro 92)

Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster)

[Deleted User]

Jordi Murphy, Kieron Marmion and Jack Carty the biggest three casualties.

Marmion's exclusion has been continuously perplexing. Has something off the pitch happened here?

[Deleted User]

Question: Does Andy Farrell have a Lancaster coached bias?

That backrow selection is eyebrow raising.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jordi Murphy, Kieron Marmion and Jack Carty the biggest three casualties.

Marmion's exclusion has been continuously perplexing. Has something off the pitch happened here?

Yeah he's currently injured won't be fit for the camp in any way and has played 80 minutes of rugby in total if say all season

Felix Jones is God.

thomond2006 wrote: »

Beirne's absence is definitely injury related. We'll know more later in the week but I can't see him playing for months.

He has a broken ankle, surgery required...could be 3-4 months before he's back is my guess

[Deleted User]

connemara man wrote: »

Yeah he's currently injured won't be fit for the camp in any way and has played 80 minutes of rugby in total if say all season

Maybe.

He was the Irish number 2 for a long time. He was the biggest surprise omission for the world cup for me (Toner second). He isn't even brought into camp when two unfit outhalves are? For the first camp of a new coach?

I dunno. I think he is a ferociously competitive and hard working player and I'd have him in the squad in a heartbeat. But he's out of the picture at the moment.

salmocab

It’s a one day get together I wouldn’t read too much into anything really. I’d say RK is done but I doubt even he was surprised by that. It looks to me like a mixture of one eye on the 6N and one on the future.

Shefwedfan

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe.

He was the Irish number 2 for a long time. He was the biggest surprise omission for the world cup for me (Toner second). He isn't even brought into camp when two unfit outhalves are? For the first camp of a new coach?

I dunno. I think he is a ferociously competitive and hard working player and I'd have him in the squad in a heartbeat. But he's out of the picture at the moment.

Marmion didnt get in WC squad and hasn't really played for Connacht since. Why is everyone so shocked at his exclusion?

It would be more shocking if he was included and Blade was left out.

Stout Warrior

I think Farrell has shown what he’s going for in his second row and centre selections. Big physical players that can match teams like England and France in a slug fest. Roux, Kleyne, Aki, Farrell and McCloskey are all big men. Might be an indicator to how he plans to play going forward and I think something that’s overdue.

[Deleted User]

Surprised Marshall has been left out. Exceptional distributor from boot and hand and one of the best defensive midfielders in Ireland.

prawnsambo

Deleted User wrote: »

Surprised Marshall has been left out. Exceptional distributor from boot and hand and one of the best defensive midfielders in Ireland.

Are you trolling awec?

bilston

Deleted User wrote: »

Surprised Marshall has been left out. Exceptional distributor from boot and hand and one of the best defensive midfielders in Ireland.

Me too, especially when you look at the other centres...it maybe suggests that Addison is being seen mainly as a centre?

bilston

prawnsambo wrote: »

Are you trolling awec?

None of what he says is incorrect!

Although his passing can sometimes be off

[Deleted User]

prawnsambo wrote: »

Are you trolling awec?

If I'm posting on boards then take it that I'm trolling awec

bilston wrote: »

Me too, especially when you look at the other centres...it maybe suggests that Addison is being seen mainly as a centre?

Marshall was unbelievable on the 2016 South Africa tour. I was certain he would push on from there but he seems to suffer from loss in form and has been injury prone.

Looks at his best at the moment though and he's been exceptional at Ulster.

[Deleted User]

I like it, good to see him bringing in guys with potential.

Shefwedfan

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If I'm posting on boards then take it that I'm trolling awec

Marshall was unbelievable on the 2016 South Africa tour. I was certain he would push on from there but he seems to suffer from loss in form and has been injury prone.

Looks at his best at the moment though and he's been exceptional at Ulster.

We have Farrell, Henshaw, Aki and Ringrose from the WC. Marshall is a good player and great to see him back playing after the head injuries but I don’t see him as any better than the 4 mentioned above

Maybe if Henshaw didn’t have a good game last week but he did

ionadnapóca

bilston wrote: »

None of what he says is incorrect!

Although his passing can sometimes be off

Sometimes!?

prawnsambo

bilston wrote: »

None of what he says is incorrect!

Although his passing can sometimes be off

There it is...

Awec was the first to point out (to me anyway) his wobbly passing on the hoof. Once seen, never forgotten.

Larbre34

This is quite evidently a form squad. So long as Farrell keeps picking that way, he'll get no complaints from me.