Tuisceanch wrote: » So a Twitterstorm generated a post storm in this thread. Interesting! An algorithm is controlling your responses.Greta has taken over your minds. She has won!!!
The public relations ****storm would end your career if anyone ever found out about this!
Akrasia wrote: » Governments should borrow based on the future strength of the economy. If current borrowing wither reduces future costs or boosts future income, then it is justified. Borrowing now to stop climate change is totally justified on both counts
Dr Naomi Wolf@naomirwolf · People shd realize that there is now technology to direct a "tweetstorm", using AI, at any influencer who threatens established interests; using any silly pretext at all. You can see the influencers who've been targeted with this but you may not know a lot of it is an algorithm.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » She is pointing to established climate science yet it seems that some of the least academically/technically qualified boardsies have a problem with the science.
Akrasia wrote: » 1.5c above preindustrial temperatures has for decades been the target to avoid dangerous climate change because of the risks that positive feedbacks can amplify warming beyond human influences. Any warming above 1.5c increases the risk that we will trigger more of these known feedbacks and some we don’t even know about yet. 2c is the next round number to aim for and the scientific evidence is that we are on target to exceed our carbon budget required to stay below 2c so our best chance is to aim to be carbon neutral ASAP and then begin removing some carbon by becoming net carbon negative sometime in the 2nd half of this century There is broad scientific consensus with this, it’s less certain than the unequivocal human cause of the warming, but it’s also the best available scientific hypotheses on the matter, vastly surpassing and alternative put forward by any climate skeptics
Tuisceanch wrote: » Has that bit finished now or is there more to come?
is_that_so wrote: » Nah I'm fine. I find information from people who actually know something about a topic is a far better use of time. I lost interest in her quite some time back. She does nothing for me at all but good luck to her.
Tell me how wrote: » See the above doesn't wash when it is misrepresenting the whole thing and ignoring her follow up tweet. Even without which, it's forced outrage. I thought you'd giver her kudos for the 2 refillable bottles in her bag but, nah, they're just there for more spin.
Beechwoodspark wrote: » There you go. She’s not the expert but She wants You to look at the established science and then take action on climate change. I don’t see what’s so hard in all of this.
Tell me how wrote: » Ok. You've obviously just heard about her and have no knowledge of what has been going on, what she has done, or what her message is. Take some time to review and catch up, it's a bit embarrassing to be so far behind.
is_that_so wrote: » Hmm. From the horse's mouth!
Beechwoodspark wrote: » Another example of how ppl are willfully spinning her message incorrectly. It’s not working folks.
"I am submitting this report as my testimony because I don't want you to listen to me, I want you to listen to the scientists," Thunberg said.
is_that_so wrote: » She doesn't have any answers but still wants to be listened to. That's fine and it's perfectly normal activity for kids.
Akrasia wrote: » The fact that the staff were nice and she eventually got a seat doesn’t change the reality that she spent a long time sitting on the floor because the train was overcrowded Which part of her tweet was a lie?
Tell me how wrote: » Where has she said that? She has said she doesn't have the answers. That is quite different to implying that she is suggesting that people discount her message entirely.
is_that_so wrote: » She keeps saying don't listen to me yet continues to assume people will listen to her. It's quite the conundrum.
Akrasia wrote: » Repeating the mockery created by others doesn’t make it less mocking. People finding mockery funny doesn’t stop it being mockery. Why don’t you just admit that you’re mocking her?
Tuisceanch wrote: » Aren't you reading a lot into that particular tweet? I mean we live in a culture obsessed with taking selfies ..some just prior to falling over a cliff.
jackboy wrote: » No.
jackboy wrote: » More pushing of the Greta messiah image. Suffering on her mission to save the world. She is not trying to convey any point herself. Her team are responsible for the picture and tweets. She did not write those tweets and the picture was not her idea.
Akrasia wrote: » It’s spin because it doesn’t change the fact that the substance of her tweet was true, it was designed to make them look good and her look bad
Tell me how wrote: » Or, it was just another message of her travels which she has been on for the last several months with accompanying images.
Akrasia wrote: » Was the train company correcting her, or just putting forward their own spin? Nobody is saying Greta didn’t have to sit on the floor on an overcrowded train