Fr_Dougal wrote: » It’s a new Green Debt, it didn’t exist before. This is the point, Greta hasn’t a clue what she’s doing. A wealthy family of 4 will end up paying as much in increased carbon tax as a poor family of 4, for the most part. Won’t effect her because she isn’t weaned yet, but it will effect adults.
Professor Moriarty wrote: » Did The Times also make Greta and Obama their person of the year? What a happy coincidence!
Tell me how wrote: » You didn't answer the question. How do you propose dealing with whatever debt may come from tackling current climate damaging practices.
Galwayguy35 wrote: » So making faces at Trump and having temper tantrums about ruined dreams are the criteria for becoming Time magazines person of the year it seems.
[Deleted User] wrote: » "influencer" is such a nebulous concept isnt it. greta responsible for everything good that ever happened since she first decided, or had it suggested to her, that she should sit outside and see if any documentarians passed her. mad stuff. mad. seriously. i think that if you believe any of it, you're bloody mad.
Tony EH wrote: Is this kid still getting under the skin of "grown adults"?
Fr_Dougal wrote: » Don’t take on the debt in the first place.
Fr_Dougal wrote: Don’t take on the debt in the first place.
Gods Gift wrote: » Why didn’t Greta go to China and put in a few days lecturing the government there on pollution. They love their coal burning power plants.
ancapailldorcha wrote: » I don't think I'll ever understanding why an autistic teenage girl triggers so many people here. I'm glad she got some recognition for her efforts.
KyussB wrote: » You wouldn't even put out a pittiful 0.6% GDP of government bonds a year - presently around ~0% interest EU wide - to work on resolving climate change? Seriously?
The challenge, the commission said, was the need to find €260 billion in additional annual investment from the state and private sectors, the equivalent of 1.2 per cent of EU GDP in 2018.
Fr_Dougal wrote: » No, not without having all the facts first. Where is this additional annual €260 billion going to come from? How will the private sector be involved? What will they get in return for their investment? How will the state raise this money? Ultimately it will be the citizens of the EU who fund that €230 billion annually, what will that look like? If you can answer all of those questions satisfactorily I’m all in, if you can’t then no thanks. From what I can see it’s all carbon taxes, or carbon border taxes.
KyussB wrote: » The deciding factor on whether or not we have all the facts, is determined by climate scientists, not by politicians or people who keep on nudging the goalposts to infinity as more and more evidence/facts come out. There is ready access to ~0% interest money - the EU can easily afford 10x that per year, more even.
Wanderer78 wrote: » theres nothing stopping eu institutions such as the eib in creating the funds needed to start such initiatives
Fr_Dougal wrote: » You haven’t answered my questions regarding the private sector. It’s rare that we see the private sector carry out acts of altruism. As a taster, let’s bring back water charges; that would be a move in the right direction. But see how that goes down with the public.
gozunda wrote: » What's being autistic got to do with it? Oh right - that's what absolutely everyone is commenting about! Though I'd say anyone having a temper tantrum in public whilst blaming everyone else for a crappy childhood etc is going to get the odd comment for sure. As for the rubbish about civilisation ending and other frankly odd utterences - well absolutely that needs some recognition! I'm not sure what award that would be though?
Wanderer78 wrote: » does it show the fragility of humanity?
Micky 32 wrote: » Ah that pathetic childish argument because an adult won’t share Greta’s views and opinions or don’t want to join her cult.
Wanderer78 wrote: » only that they are not just gretas views and opinions
Micky 32 wrote: » Yes everyone has different views and opinions and i respect that but using her age and autism against a person because they disagree with her is pathetic.
Micky 32 wrote: » This childish argument i’m talking about.
Wanderer78 wrote: » id have to agree with it, im finding it somewhat disturbing that this girl is upsetting so many adults, im wondering, whats really wrong with all these adults?
gozunda wrote: » What's being autistic got to do with it? Oh right - that's what absolutely everyone is commenting about! I suppose like any public figure - theres going to be some commentary. Some seem not to like that. Odd no? Though I'd say anyone having a temper tantrum in public whilst blaming everyone else for a crappy childhood etc is going to get the odd comment for sure. As for the rubbish about civilisation ending and other frankly odd utterences - well absolutely that needs some recognition! I'm not sure what award that would be though?
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