KWAG2019 wrote: » Others who lived and worked there tell a very different story. You can even find a post about a trip in a taxi there recently. In addition the murder of a woman in 1998 in the area is linked to heroin debt and prostitution. Your claim in regard to street prostitution in the area is incorrect.
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » Purest sign of an clown on the internet. Makes a statement and tells people to Google it if it needs to be clarified.
Coconut12 wrote: » Sorry I’ve no idea as I’m not a cop ! What a bizarre question It’s all on google if you want to check it out and on the Irish Times Gardai yesterday appealed for help from possible witnesses to the abduction of a young woman from the Baggot Street area of Dublin… JIM CUSACK Wed, Sep 27, 2000, 01:00
Happy4all wrote: » How many murders were there?
chicorytip wrote: » Of course. It was 4am on a wet and windy morning. Street prostitution in that general area had ceased to occur long before the period of time concerned (circa.2000). I am of the view that Trevor entered water - not accidentally or because of some criminal act - and his body was eventually washed out to sea or lies entombed somewhere at the bottom of Dublin Bay. The sad ending of this young lady's life came to my mind.Blaithnaid Timothy. How many remember the particular case?
Coconut12 wrote: » There were a lot of murders and abductions of prostitutes in that area of Leeson St and Grand Canal in the year 1998/2000. So a lot of shady characters in the area where he worked and route taken home at that time All on google in the papers
Day Lewin wrote: » I imagine that the sex workers in the area must have been questioned about this; whether they'd seen TD passing, for instance - or if he'd ever been a customer - but the Guards and the family and friends all seem unanimous that the latter was NOT the case. And it was such a dirty night, even the streetwalkers were not to be seen.
Muahahaha wrote: » I wonder about this too, no matter how innocuous whatever conversation MIB had with the two bank colleagues it would still reveal something. Like was he a grifter trying to bum a smoke or beg for money, was he a pimp offering services or was he just asking them did they have a good night out, etc? Thing is you have to ground this in the fact that the two lads work there so they know everyone who has access to that secure building and there is a stranger hanging right outside their workplace at 3 in the morning. Its not what you could describe as normal behaviour as he stands there looking in the gate with them directly behind them, surely you'd take some sort of interest if some lad who has no business being at your workplace is standing there looking directly into it at 3 in the morning.
Fiftyfilthy wrote: » I wonder if they were even able to tell the Garda what they said to the mib?
Fiftyfilthy wrote: » Still think any communication should be released in the media between them no matter how innocuous
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » How much coverage was there of "the last person to see Trevor was an yet to be identified man standing outside BOIAM" back in December 2000 ? This guy may have no idea that the guy he talked to for a few seconds late that night is the same guy on the posters. For every missing person poster you see or hear about do you look into the circumstances and go back over your memory to figure if you might have interacted with them ? If the answer is no then put yourself in the shoes of MIB in December 2000.
Video trio may hold answer to mystery GARDA are now looking at the last pictures of young banker Trevor Deely, taken by a closed circuit TV camera, in a bid to unravel his mysterious disapparance. Trevor, 22, was last seen as he walked home from an office party in Dublin, but family and friends have been unable to trace him despite extensive searches and a high-profile poster campaign. He was picked up on CCTV video footage at the Bank of Ireland on Baggot Street at 4.14am on December 8. The video footage shows a couple walking ahead of him and a person walking behind him, but so far gardaave been unable to trace these people who may be able to help them plot Trevor's subsequent movements.
Gardai need witness 'from eight to 80' At 3.30am, Trevor left the club and minutes later arrived at the back entrance to the BIAM building where he intended to collect an umbrella for the journey to Serpentine Avenue. The security camera recorded his arrival, but when the footage was examined another man was spotted beside the railings at the front of the laneway leading into the back entrance. Trevor had a cup of tea, chatted with a colleague working the nightshift and then left the office at 4am. Again he was recorded on the security camera leaving at 4.02am. Despite media reports which stated that the same man was visible again on the video footage, the Sunday Independent can confirm that there was no sign of the man. There is no shelter in that location and given the weather it is highly unlikely that he would have remained there for very long. The most direct route to the next point where Trevor was spotted was down Wilton Terrace to Baggot Street Bridge. The most natural route to take then would have been down Baggot Street to Jury's Hotel and out Merrion Road to Serpentine Avenue. It arguably would be the safest route, well lit and possibly more populated, however sparsely. However, Trevor decided to take a darker and potentially more dangerous route. He crossed Baggot Street Bridge and headed down Haddington Road. Just beyond the junction he was recorded on the security camera above the Bank of Ireland ATM. He was holding the distinctive umbrella he had collected at BIAM. Significantly, although his stride was a bit unsteady, the umbrella remained upright without any sign of being blown to either side. Thirty seconds later a man in dark clothes and a woollen hat passed and about a minute after that a well-dressed couple walked by. The man held an umbrella in one hand and again it was steady, with no sign of high winds.Is the man in the woollen hat the same as the one recorded at the back entrance to BIAM? We consulted an expert, who examined both sets of footage. He pointed out the fact that there seemed to be a reflection from the jacket of the man at the rear of the BIAM, indicating that he was wearing a leather jacket. This was not true of the man seen passing the ATM of the bank on Baggot St Bridge. The expert conclusion was that the recordings were of two different men. The couple recorded passing the ATM on Baggot St came forward to help with the enquiry. But unfortunately they had no memory of seeing Trevor or any incident. There was one other figure on the footage, that of a young woman, who was scantily dressed considering the weather conditions. She has not come forward. Trevor had passed a security camera at 4.14am. This was the last sighting of the young man. Nothing has been heard from him since and his bank account has remained untouched. Despite an unprecedented publicity campaign, no member of the public has come forward with any information. In the city of Dublin, in shops and on lamposts it is almost impossible to escape the image of Trevor Deely and his very distinctive boyish good looks. It is disturbing to pause and consider that the poster contains the photograph of a young man who has disappeared without trace and left his family devastated and living an unending nightmare.There was the man with the assured walk behind the couple. His body language was not one of a drunk. It is inconceivable that he is not aware that a man who walked ahead of him that night has gone missing. Apart from the media attention, if the man has ever walked the same direction again he is confronted by images of Trevor all the way down the road. There may be others that know something and for other reasons may not want to come forward, like the scantily-dressed girl on the ATM footage.
A renewed appeal has been made by the Garda for information on missing person Trevor Deely the 19th anniversary of his disappearance. In a statement on Saturday, the Garda said detectives at Pearse Street Garda station are appealing for any information that could assist the investigation. “Even the smallest piece of information, which may seem insignificant, may assist the investigation.”
sugarman wrote: » ...then goes onto be a wild conspiracy theorist :pac:
LillySV wrote: » I’d love if he was on the jury... if u think that man hasn’t anything to do with trevors disappearance then your mad... he was clearly casing him , having Sussed him out earlier.... perhaps he thought td was a soft touch... or maybe td has said something to piss him off...
Coconut12 wrote: » Do you actually think the guards would devote all that time and resources and expense to a dig to find a gun or just on a whim. Hardly . They also said they had a credible witness. Granted they didn’t find anything but I wouldn’t dismiss the importance of it all !!
smelly sock wrote: » Maybe nobody actually came forward.
sugarman wrote: » Indeed but why come forward with that information then? They didnt want the €100k reward and allegedly offered it up on the back of guilty conscious. ...and now the recent second witness that backs this up? The Chapelizod dig could have been just a stab with the witness saying X done it and was known to use Y area back then.. but didnt know where for sure.
20Wheel wrote: » He was. But, if he acted alone, Where's the body? The canal locks were closed.
Coconut12 wrote: » Well I think the dig at Chapelizod goes against that theory.
sugarman wrote: » Theres strong evidence to suggest the opposite... I mean, if somebody was going to commit suicide by jumping into a river, the last thing they'd care about was to go out of their way to grab an umbrella to keep dry on the way! ...or to check their work emails / make notes for the next following day, or to call a friend back and leave a voicemails saying i'll see you tomorrow!
Fr Tod Umptious wrote: » I honestly think that Trevor went into the Dodder or Dublin Bay, by accident or by his own choice. He was heading in the direction of Dublin Bay when last seen on CCTV and also he had to cross the Dodder to get home from the last last location he was seen at. That and the fact that young men with drink taken end up in water far more often than they end up dead and buried somewhere as a result of some nefarious act. If sad, no doubt about that, but in my opinion it's what happened to him. And MIB is just someone that for some innocent reason has not come forward.
MyPeopleDrankTheSoup wrote: » you seem well read on the topic, waht do you think happened if you had to guess? i can't believe you consider the MIB inconsequential
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