punisher5112 wrote: » Yes they need to be road legal, have lighting, insurance and a licence which isn't possible so I don't get why you are arguing my point which states they are illegal.... I said they are illegal, I wasn't saying it any other way.
...Ghost... wrote: » Your post didn't read right. You said E-scooters need insurance and a licence and Gardaí are slowly enforcing this. The truth is they need neither and are only for legal use on private land. Some Gardaí are enforcing the illegal use of e-rides. Hats off to the law breakers who are helping to move things forward with regards to the legality of e-rides. Ireland is once again a trailer.
Mrcaramelchoc wrote: » Screw the legalities.
BarryM wrote: » If you don't mind me saying so 'bloody typical' I hope you don't have an accident or knock somebody down, I'll have to pay a part of the costs....??
Mrcaramelchoc wrote: » Lads does anyone actually have an escooter in this thread and could they recommend one or two or what they are like? Screw the legalities.
LeeroyJ. wrote: » I recommend either the tried and tested m365/Pro, the NineBot ES4 or Max or if you want something with a little more power, an Etwow.
Mrcaramelchoc wrote: » Ok thanks.the first 2 i have read loads on but haven't heard of the last one. Just saw this awhile ago.https://www.geekbuying.com/item/KUGOO-S1-Folding-Electric-Scooter-350W-Motor-8-0-Inch-Tire-Black-411071.html Doesn't look too bad.
Mrcaramelchoc wrote: » Take a chill pill there barry.it was tounge in cheek.i tried to open my own thread but it was closed and i was redirected here and its all legal talk.wtf. i want recommendations not legalities.
rubadub wrote: » rubadub wrote: » Another from them here showing a commute on the N11. Starts off in Kilbogget park, then goes the wrong way on a cycle lane for a bit Saw a guy being nabbed by a garda on the N11 this morning at cornelscourt, possibly this lad on the monowheel. Just here https://goo.gl/maps/s4FkAo6Yti8HDyqH9 (I love the fact google maps reveals all the non compliant election posters!). It seems to me the garda was possibly laying in wait for him, I have travelled on that road since it opened and have never seen gardai at that point. They would be at cabinteely as there is a garda station there and people crossing etc. After that an ambulance passed me and I guess got blocked at whitescross as the bus lane was packed with cars again, like one I saw recently. No garda there of course. I wondered if they want it in the papers that they are being seized before xmas to put people off considering getting them. I warned another woman on an escooter later.
rubadub wrote: » Another from them here showing a commute on the N11. Starts off in Kilbogget park, then goes the wrong way on a cycle lane for a bit
rubadub wrote: » ^^ that same guy was back on the monowheel today. I was talking to him at the lights and he said she just warned him to stick to cycle tracks and not be on footpaths. There was a male garda in the same area this morning, this time at the lights, I was saying hello to him, he was right at the road so yer man had to pass him closely. I looked back and saw the guy passed on the monowheel with nothing said. So no crackdown or and I still have no idea why the gardai are at that spot where there is never an issue!
[Deleted User] wrote: » What's considered illegal here about these bikes / scooters ? Are People sure they're talking about a crime or an offence ? an offence is not a crime, there is a difference.
Deleted User wrote: » What's considered illegal here about these bikes / scooters ? Are People sure they're talking about a crime or an offence ? an offence is not a crime, there is a difference.
Mrcaramelchoc wrote: » I hope they are just after people acting the maggot and not people just commuting responsibly.
liamog wrote: » In the absence of other legislation, they fall under the legal definition of a mechanically propelled vehicles (MPV). It is illegal to use an MPV on a public road without tax, registration, and insurance. It's not possible to obtain these, therefore they cannot legally be used on a public road.
Mrcaramelchoc wrote: » Can they be taxed and or insured?
Deleted User wrote: » No it's not , it's an offence. It's not a criminal matter. That's where the circus courts come in to handle this BS , extracting money from people.
(1) A person (in this subsection referred to as the user) shall not use in a public place a mechanically propelled vehicle unless either a vehicle insurer, a vehicle guarantor or an exempted person would be liable for injury caused by the negligent use of the vehicle by him at that time or there is in force at that time either (a) it may, in so far as it relates to injury to property, be limited to the sum of €1,120,000 per claim, whatever the number of victims, (b) an approved guarantee whereby there is guaranteed the payment by the user, or some other person who would be liable for injury caused by the negligent use of the vehicle at that time by the user, of all sums without limit (save as is hereinafter otherwise provided) which the user or his personal representative or such other person or his personal representative shall become liable to pay to any person (exclusive of the excepted persons) by way of damages or costs on account of injury to person or property caused by the negligent use of the vehicle at that time by the user.
(3) Where a person contravenes subsection (1) of this section, he and, if he is not the owner of the vehicle, such owner shall each be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding €5,000 or, at the discretion of the court, to imprisonment for any term not exceeding six months or to both such fine and such imprisonment
tuxy wrote: » No category for tax, no company that will insure them.
championc wrote: » Can we please stop this sh1te and stay on topic. Maybe open a new thread for like minded people to have their say.
tuxy wrote: » Only answering a genuine question that someone should know before they purchase one.
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