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Are the majority of Irish stupid and greedy?

Horsebox9000

Genuine question
I notice through my trawling of news sites and their respective pages on the social media etc.. That there doesn't seem to be too many braincells in comments

Read an article about the Luas the other day and someone was legitimately moaning there wasn't one in their area even though it was a rural area with cheap rent and not much facility wise.

Read an article about the Garda and someone mentioned the Garda were scum because they arrested said poster in public before and embarrassed them.

Another person stating that the 2 new 24 hr bus routes is an attack on the Taxi drivers of Ireland by the people of Ireland and the routes should be scrapped cause now taxis might have to work harder.

And of course politics. Anything... literally anything gets announced and instantly barrages of what about the homeless and FF FG LABOUR (people don't seem to be aware Labour aint in gov anymore) not fit for purpose.

So really what I am saying is there seems to be a few pre meditated responses to the big.issues in Ireland and I notice that's all people can ever say.
Why do they not have constructive criticism and why is everything me me me?

Housing- the Governemnt should build social houses. Gov builds the houses . The houses aren't free enough or i don't like the noise of construction so don't build here. It's too high. Yada yada

I'm legit wondering do people see the same online or am I alone ? And yes I believe the comments made by some people to be stupid hence the title.
Also are we stagnating progress by always listening to and sometimes acquiescing to their demands?

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Feisar

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

There are greedy people wherever you go.
Are Irish people stupid .. I would have to say yes.
The Irish are incapable of getting outraged about anything, we get little or nothing for our taxes, crap services, crap everything and just put up with it.
Shure anyway I'll have a pint .... 'low lie the fields of Athenry ....'

What did the surrender monkeys get out of the yellow vest protest?

YFlyer

50% of Irish are below average intelligence

Within the Irish.

El_Duderino 09

kowloon wrote: »

So the larger this majority is by volume and below averageness, the more above average the above average people are. Where would one meet these selfless intellectuals?

It was a joke - bases on the responses which seemed to think most people are stupid.

To answer your question, I'm assuming a fairly normal distribution of cleverness

CucaFace

Facebook and the comments sections have allowed the stupid people of Ireland a platform to post their idiotic comments under headlines of articles (often without ever reading the full article) and then get validated by other idiots who agree with them which gives the idiots more confidence that what they are saying is actually correct and intelligent.

Your Face

I'm just a sexy boy.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

corsav6 wrote: »

If your looking in the wrong place then you'll find the wrong people. Plenty of hard working, intelligent and decent people in this country.

What a lovely message. There is often too much negativity online with Twitter, Facebook, Reddit ect. It's refreshing to read someone say that most people are doing their best.

El_Duderino 09

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

What a lovely message. There is often too much negativity online with Twitter, Facebook, Reddit ect. It's refreshing to read someone say that most people are doing their best.

Absolutely agree. You could add boards to the list of places to find disproportionate negativity. This thread is a good example with people thinking most people are stupid. It's a case of people over estimating their own ability. E.g. 80%of people will say they're an above average driver, 90% of people will say they have an above average sense if humour.

I assume a normal distribution of most skills. Irish people are made of the same stuff as everyone else so they're probably bang average. Most people will fall within 1or2 Standard distributions of the mean. I never really understand the desire to talk Ireland down or pretend Irish people are stupid. They’re just , normal.

Keyzer

OP - what your experiencing is what I call the Professor X social media syndrome.

Before the advent of social media and comments sections on online publications, people read the paper and generally kept their opinions/idea's to themselves. Or went down the pub/coffee shop and shared with like minded intelligent people/knuckle draggers.

Now, with the proliferation of social media and online comment sections, what you're experiencing is essentially what Professor X went through before he learned how to filter out all the voices he heard.

My advice, don't read comments sections.

whisky_galore

There is a herd mentality here, when the old Telecom Éireann went public, loads bought shares thinking they would be millionaires. People losing their minds during the Tiger years with a bit of money in their hot little hands. Johnny builds a vulgar one off house the size of a small country, therefore I must have a bigger house...doesn't matter if I actually need one that big or can afford it.
Down the country, the fawning over local heroes, politicians dodgy as fcuk voted in time and again, folks shaking hands with a convicted criminal because they come from a "decent" family or maybe they were handy with a football or some such.

FishOnABike

Omackeral wrote: »

We also expect foreigners to speak English to us here at home and when we go abroad. Heaven forbid you learn and try to use a few phrases in Spanish or French. That's all without knowing our own language.

Au contraire... ;-))

Horsebox9000

Ok so the shooting in Coolock yesterday.

Read comments

"Its the governments fault that these guys got shot because they were not good role models for them".

So even if someone gets involved in the drug trade and causes harm to lives. We don't blame him we blame the gov. This logic gives me a migraine.

turbbo

Feisar wrote: »

I fly frequently. Most humanoids do not have the mental capacity to remove liquids from their bags. Or if they do, don’t realise 100ml is the max capacity per container.

I fly frequently too and notice Irish people tend to be very good in this regard by comparison to other countries.

From reading this thread the underdog mentality is alive and well in Ireland.

I think we have to realise what we are first - a poor first world country that really is punching well above its weight in the world. Any Irish person that has traveled throughout the world will know that Ireland isn't as bad as the mainstream media or social media pretends it is. I think the OP has a point about comment sections - but in general comments sections are to be avoided by anybody with even half a brain.

Bobblehats

“We are the **** of Europe”. Well I don’t know about that but we’re getting there...

Raconteuse

I don't know what the "we" stuff is about. It has been established that there is a very vocal contingent of stupid, lazy, moaning, self entitled folk in this country. Just like in lots of countries.

No need for putting down the entire country though, or the arrogant "everyone is stupid except me" thing, because you can be sure the folk saying "we" and "the Irish" aren't actually including themselves.

Doubt any other nation is so self doubting. You wouldn't read Americans or British going on about themselves like that; and when it comes to stupid, they have some beauts.

As someone said here recently, it's like a legacy from colonialism and anti Irish sentiment - like it has been internalised here.

nkl12xtw5goz70

Raconteuse wrote: »

Doubt any other nation is so self doubting. You wouldn't read Americans or British going on about themselves like that; and when it comes to stupid, they have some beauts.

I believe it's much worse in America, where you have one half of the country giving out about the liberal idiots and the other half giving out about the conservative idiots. There's very little common ground at all.

pgj2015

I will just leave this here.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/madness-continues-krispy-kreme-blanchardstown-15278540

Shady Grady

The majority of the world are stupid and greedy. You can't just apply it to one area. How else do you think there are so many problems in the world now?

Bobblehats

pgj2015 wrote: »

I will just leave this here.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/madness-continues-krispy-kreme-blanchardstown-15278540

Hey hey hey kids!

Shady Grady

Bobblehats wrote: »

Hey hey hey kids!

It is scientific fact that Dunkin Doughnuts are far superior to Krispy Kremes. Anything else is heresay.

Bobblehats

Shady Grady wrote: »

It is scientific fact that Dunkin Doughnuts are far superior to Krispy Kremes. Anything else is heresay.

You can taste a difference amidst all that sugar? Do miss a fusco’s meringue though I hafta say

Strumms

Pac1Man wrote: »

Have a walk through a shopping centre to see the complete lack of self awareness most people have in it's most basic form. People stopping suddenly to use their phone, sauntering out of shops without a cursory glance to check for incoming walkers, labouring along 3 abreast stopping people behind from getting by etc...

The same can be seen on the roads however it's much easier to deal with since the repercussions are much greater.

Yep, shopping centers are a great indicator of the appalling demographic of fûckwit who inhabit our lives....some recent examples....

The woman who informed us she was Q skipping as her parking was about to go into the next hour..’did we mind?’ She asked AFTER she skipped...

The three people who stopped at the bottom of the escalator wonder if they should go upstairs and the rest of us have to wait while they discuss it...

The fûckwit who today parked so close to my car and smacked my door with hers, looked, saw me sitting in the car and instead of apologizing or looking to see might there have been damage just walked off into the shopping center like nothing happened...she had parked just ‘on’ the line which a cursory look in the mirror would have showed her but no... car was bought brand new five months ago, thankfully no damage...

turbbo

Strumms wrote: »

Yep, shopping centers are a great indicator of the appalling demographic of fûckwit who inhabit our lives....some recent examples....

The woman who informed us she was Q skipping as her parking was about to go into the next hour..’did we mind?’ She asked AFTER she skipped...

The three people who stopped at the bottom of the escalator wonder if they should go upstairs and the rest of us have to wait while they discuss it...

The fûckwit who today parked so close to my car and smacked my door with hers, looked, saw me sitting in the car and instead of apologizing or looking to see might there have been damage just walked off into the shopping center like nothing happened...she had parked just ‘on’ the line which a cursory look in the mirror would have showed her but no... car was bought brand new five months ago, thankfully no damage...

There's the beginnings of a "falling down 2" in that! Brilliant.:D
Have to agree I find shopping centres in Ireland to be completely intolerable.

w/s/p/c/

pgj2015 wrote: »

"what time does tesco close in tallaght"?

Have seen on numerous occasions posted on Facebook the best question of all time...

"What time does town open at? xx"

MrAbyss

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

Ok best example I just found there
CAB seize millions From family claiming dole.

First response is what about the bankers and Apple.

Fair point to honest.

Ray Palmer

The majority of people are wilfully ignorant in Ireland with a colonial hang up causing the chip on their shoulder.

This allows them to blame the government for everything without any understanding of the issues.

They then expect everybody else to pay for things for them which is greed. The idea that country with such a small population with low housing density can provide top services like wealth countries do in their capitals all over the country is absurd. If you choose to ignore all information and explanations it is a stupid thing to do but doesn't mean you are stupid. You aren't I'll informed if you decide not take the information hence people are wilfully ignorant here. Like the people who ignore climate change information and just go on about not being told what to do or any restrictions.

Blaizes

Some people are definitely greedy, Just this week got quoted a jaw dropping amount by a tradesman. Doesn’t apply to everyone of course. But probably people are greedy everywhere and the more they have the greedier they are or become or maybe it’s that they become meaner.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Raconteuse wrote: »

I don't know what the "we" stuff is about. It has been established that there is a very vocal contingent of stupid, lazy, moaning, self entitled folk in this country. Just like in lots of countries.

No need for putting down the entire country though, or the arrogant "everyone is stupid except me" thing, because you can be sure the folk saying "we" and "the Irish" aren't actually including themselves.

Doubt any other nation is so self doubting. You wouldn't read Americans or British going on about themselves like that; and when it comes to stupid, they have some beauts.

As someone said here recently, it's like a legacy from colonialism and anti Irish sentiment - like it has been internalised here.

Raconteuse wrote: »

I'm the first to complain about self loathing bollox but it is more prevalent in this country - and other Anglophone countries too though. It's not just an Irish thing.

I mean Germanic societies seem far more about everyone recognising that they live in a society and have to pull together.

You’re all over the place!

Raconteuse

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

You’re all over the place!

I'm not saying "the Irish" or "we" (meaning everyone except me) are stupid though.

I'm saying there is a vocal group here who carry on the way the OP is talking about. It's not just an Irish thing however.

Ray Palmer

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

You’re all over the place!

They match up in my eyes. What warped thing are you seeing?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Ray Palmer wrote: »

They match up in my eyes. What warped thing are you seeing?

The first says “Yes, what the OP outlines is more prevalent here and in a handful of other countries”. The second defends Ireland because “lots of countries” have the same issues. Is it the few Anglophone nations or is it a lot of nations? The first indicates that it’s more of an issue here, the second says that it’s an issue that is much more widespread.