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Community Employment (C.E.) Scheme payment question

I am me123

I am due to begin a C.E. scheme next week.

As far as I know, when I begin this scheme, the JSA I currently receive will be paid into my bank account after this, so will no longer need to collect the payment at post office.

Two questions;

Do I receive any extra payment on top of my JSA when working on a C.E. scheme? If so, how much?

Do I give my bank details to my host organisation or to Social Welfare directly?

Anyone able to help? Particularly anyone who has completed a C.E. scheme before?

Thanks.

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Cherry Blossom

You will stop getting JSA and get wages instead directly from the CE Scheme. The DEASP will inform the scheme how much to pay you and they pay the scheme. Its usually €22.50 a week more than your JSA.

I am me123

Cherry Blossom wrote: »

You will stop getting JSA and get wages instead directly from the CE Scheme. The DEASP will inform the scheme how much to pay you and they pay the scheme. Its usually €22.50 a week more than your JSA.

Thanks for the reply.

So do I give my bank details to the Social Welfare or to my host organisation for my wages to be paid directly into the bank?
My host organisation mentioned something about providing them with my bank account details, but do I need to give Social Welfare any documents, etc?
I already informed my case officer of my intentions to take up the scheme.

Cherry Blossom

You give your details to the CE Supervisor. As far as i remember you dont need to do anything for Social Welfare, the CE Supervisor will have been in contact with them already. Youll get paid by the CE scheme which may or may not be the host company depending on the position.

Cherry Blossom

Example if you are the administrator for Tuam CE Project, then they are both employer and host company.

If you are the caretaker for Tuam GAA club, Tuam GAA club are the host company but your employer is Tuam CE project.

These are made up names btw, its just for example.

splinter65

Your CEScheme supervisor should have discussed all of this with you.

I am me123

I have been in touch with my case officer in Social Welfare who informed me that I will recieve an allowance of €225.50 for the duration of the scheme from the host organisation and will be exempt from signing on..
I usually recieve JSA of €196 and was told this will be stopped from the day I start the scheme, so does this mean I will just get the allowance only for the scheme and nothing extra?
Thanks.

Cherry Blossom

Were you expecting to get two payments? Why would you think youd get two payments?

I am me123

Just thought I read something somewhere to that effect ( obviously I was under the wrong impression.)

I have never participated in such a scheme before, so can't really be expected to know how it all works without asking someone who knows the ins and outs of the scheme.

Cherry Blossom

No, as i said your jobseekers will stop and youll get your wages from the CE project.

I am me123

Thank you.

[Deleted User]

I am me123 wrote: »

Just thought I read something somewhere to that effect ( obviously I was under the wrong impression.)

I have never participated in such a scheme before, so can't really be expected to know how it all works without asking someone who knows the ins and outs of the scheme.

The Citizens Information info on the Community Employment Scheme is very helpful on all aspects of the scheme, how the allowance is made up, holidays, your clearance to work part time outside of your CE Scheme hours etc., and not have your CE payment affected etc. https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/unemployment_and_redundancy/employment_support_schemes/community_employment_scheme.html

splinter65

I am me123 wrote: »

Just thought I read something somewhere to that effect ( obviously I was under the wrong impression.)

I have never participated in such a scheme before, so can't really be expected to know how it all works without asking someone who knows the ins and outs of the scheme.

You should really have a good long chat with your CE Scheme supervisor who should explain everything to you.
You are now in employment for 19 1/2 hours per week for a weekly wage of €225.50.
You are subject to all the same rights and entitlements as any other employee. You are subject to PRSI.
You are free to take up another part time job in the hours that you are not at the CEScheme.

I am me123

splinter65 wrote: »

You should really have a good long chat with your CE Scheme supervisor who should explain everything to you.
You are now in employment for 19 1/2 hours per week for a weekly wage of €225.50.
You are subject to all the same rights and entitlements as any other employee. You are subject to PRSI.
You are free to take up another part time job in the hours that you are not at the CEScheme.

Thank you very much. My hours are from 10am to 4pm Monday, Wednesday and Thursday, ( I attend a Level 5 course on Tuesdays, up until Christmas, and also volunteer on Fridays, so these are n't free days for me during the week) would this suffice for 19.5 hours per week requirement? Or do I need to do extra hours to make the time up?

Cherry Blossom

You may need to make up the time, your half hour lunch break does not count as time worked either. They may allow you some time for the course, depends on the course and on the supervisor.

splinter65

I am me123 wrote: »

Thank you very much. My hours are from 10am to 4pm Monday, Wednesday and Thursday, ( I attend a Level 5 course on Tuesdays, up until Christmas, and also volunteer on Fridays, so these are n't free days for me during the week) would this suffice for 19.5 hours per week requirement? Or do I need to do extra hours to make the time up?

Who has agreed these hours with you?

I am me123

splinter65 wrote: »

Who has agreed these hours with you?

The C.E. Scheme Supervisor

[Deleted User]

I am me123 wrote: »

The C.E. Scheme Supervisor

You’re ok so. Most schemes are fairly flexible especially when you’re doing outside training. Just be careful that you’re not over stretching yourself.

I am me123

Cheers guys ðŸ‘ðŸ‘

I am me123

Cherry Blossom wrote: »

You may need to make up the time, your half hour lunch break does not count as time worked either. They may allow you some time for the course, depends on the course and on the supervisor.

Thank you.

How much of a lunch break I am entitled to working 19.5 hours per week?
The scheme supervisor was informed at interview of my voluntary work and my one day course.

[Deleted User]

I am me123 wrote: »

Thank you.

How much of a lunch break I am entitled to working 19.5 hours per week?
The scheme supervisor was informed at interview of my voluntary work and my one day course.

You really need talk this through with your supervisor. They are obviously being lenient on you, so don’t mess it up!

splinter65

I am me123 wrote: »

Thank you.

How much of a lunch break I am entitled to working 19.5 hours per week?
The scheme supervisor was informed at interview of my voluntary work and my one day course.

After you’ve worked 4 1/2 hours you are entitled to a 15 minute break. After 6 hours you are entitled to a 1/2 hour break which can include that 15 minute break.
In your case you will be finished work for the day after 6 hours so you don’t need any break at all.

Cherry Blossom

If you are working a 6 hour shift you must have a 20 minute break. The break doesn't count towards your hours.

I am me123

I completed my first day on the scheme today. I worked a 5 hour shift with one half hour break..10am to 3pm. I work a 3 day week at present. Can I work the required 19.5hrs in 3 days? If so, what hours will I need to do? Examples?

[Deleted User]

I am me123 wrote: »

I completed my first day on the scheme today. I worked a 5 hour shift with one half hour break..10am to 3pm. I work a 3 day week at present. Can I work the required 19.5hrs in 3 days? If so, what hours will I need to do? Examples?

Speak to your supervisor.

splinter65

I am me123 wrote: »

I completed my first day on the scheme today. I worked a 5 hour shift with one half hour break..10am to 3pm. I work a 3 day week at present. Can I work the required 19.5hrs in 3 days? If so, what hours will I need to do? Examples?

I can’t understand why you don’t discuss this with your supervisor? You can’t go into work tomorrow and say “I was told on boards that I can do blah blah blah”. Talk to your supervisor and tell him/her you don’t understand the hours of work.