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Why aren't you a vegan!?

[Deleted User]

Cards on the table, I'm not a vegan.

That said, it's very hard to argue against the common vegan. After all, almost nobody argues that there is some positive benefit toward the infliction of suffering on animals.

Nobody would argue in favour of collecting dogs in the back of a truck, and sending them off for slaughter in some local abatoir. But that's precisely what happens with the other sentient animals.

The process is often brutal, but even if it were pain-free, the argument goes that animals shouldn't be killed in the same way we wouldn't recommend it for horses or dogs.

I can't really think of a valid argument against veganism. You'd think, then, that I would convert to veganism, but I haven't - and won't. It's a purely selfish endeavour, then, because I'm being hypocritical about how I would react if I saw dogs treated in the same way as farmed animals.

True, there are evolutionary reasons for eating meat. I think the argument now is that there are sufficient plant alternatives.

So, why aren't you a vegan?

Perhaps you have a valid position I, or others here, haven't thought of.

But thus far, I can't frame a case against it.

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osarusan

I would easily go a day or two without any meat in my diet. Not as a conscious choice, but because my breakfast would usually be meat-free, and lunch is just some fruit, so if dinner was meat free, which it would be around 3 days a week, those would end up being vegetarian days.

A vegan diet goes way further though, and I am nowhere near that, on any day.

Spanish Eyes

I honestly don't think it has much to do with meat/animals/climate change etc.. It is the cult du jour now.

And to be honest, being vegan must be hard work, looking at labels for the merest hint of anything non vegan and so on.

Each to their own, but do NOT preach to me. Thank you kindly.

RacoonQueen

Can't be bothered learning how to cook tasty vegan food.

I like making cake. Would happily add meat free meals to my daily diet, but, well...see above.

whisky_galore

victor8600 wrote: »

Too expensive to farm those species for meat. Especially cats.

Plenty old nags being abandoned by our cultural friends, pity not to make use of them.
Horse is damn tasty meat.

[Deleted User]

whisky_galore wrote: »

Meat is tasty. Omnomnomnom.

I think we can almost all agree to that.

whisky_galore

Meat is tasty. Omnomnomnom.

Quantum Erasure

I like milk in my tea, i like cake.

[Deleted User]

I love meat too much. I'm selfish and I don't feel good about it.

RocketRaccoon

I love cheese and chocolate too much

Donnielighto

Odelay wrote: »

Farm animals are often treated better than many humans. Given the choice of coming back as a dairy cow or someone in the third world, I’d prefer to come back as the cow.

That's pretty bleak. Our cattle are looked after but they are stuck in the shed for a few months a year.

Farm animals aren't looked after better than humans, bor should they tbh.

Odelay

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would you be comfortable if dogs or horses or cats were farmed in accordance with the same methods, then, to add more diversity to our menus?

Farm animals are often treated better than many humans. Given the choice of coming back as a dairy cow or someone in the third world, I’d prefer to come back as the cow.

Donnielighto

tayto lover wrote: »

Love my steak and other meats.
If I was born to eat green stuff I’d have four legs.

You are born to eat green stuff, just not exclusively.

Donnielighto

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would you be comfortable if dogs or horses or cats were farmed in accordance with the same methods, then, to add more diversity to our menus?

Wouldnt eat primary meat eater. Cats and dogs wouldnt be for me, horse would be fine though.

tayto lover

Love my steak and other meats.
If I was born to eat green stuff I’d have four legs.

Apiarist

Deleted User wrote: »

Would you be comfortable if dogs or horses or cats were farmed in accordance with the same methods, then, to add more diversity to our menus?

Too expensive to farm those species for meat. Especially cats.

YFlyer

Vegan most of the time. Odd time vegetarian and less so fish dishes due to where I am.

screamer

Life’s too short and can’t be arsed

[Deleted User]

endacl wrote: »

Don’t want to be. Like the taste of meat. Ok with farming/slaughter practices.

That’s why.

Would you be comfortable if dogs or horses or cats were farmed in accordance with the same methods, then, to add more diversity to our menus?

endacl

Don’t want to be. Like the taste of meat. Ok with farming/slaughter practices.

That’s why.