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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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Nerdlingr

Where's all the traffic gonna go ? They gonna make Patrick's Quay a two way street?
Along with the traffic ban in Patrick Street, closing MacCurtain Street for the year will just bring about total gridlock no?

satanta99

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Where's all the traffic gonna go ? They gonna make Patrick's Quay a two way street?
Along with the traffic ban in Patrick Street, closing MacCurtain Street for the year will just bring about total gridlock no?

They are not planning to close MacCurtain Street.

It is York Street that is to close.

Nerdlingr

satanta99 wrote: »

They are not planning to close MacCurtain Street.

It is York Street that is to close.

d'oh !!! read it wrong!! phew!

CorkCraneCount

I can't attach the link properly because I'm not allowed as a new user, but Irish Examiner reporting story that:

An Bord Pleanala have approved the increase in building size and apartment numbers for the Horgan's Quay development

www 😀 irishexaminer 😀 com/breakingnews/ireland/abp-approve-plans-for-302-apartment-complex-on-corks-north-docks-964566 😀 html

hans aus dtschl

CorkCraneCount wrote: »

I can't attach the link properly because I'm not allowed as a new user, but Irish Examiner reporting story that:

An Bord Pleanala have approved the increase in building size and apartment numbers for the Horgan's Quay development

www 😀 irishexaminer 😀 com/breakingnews/ireland/abp-approve-plans-for-302-apartment-complex-on-corks-north-docks-964566 😀 html

How does this work, when it's already in the process of being built?

snotboogie

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

How does this work, when it's already in the process of being built?

The Hotel and Office sections are under construction now. No work has started on the apartments. Leo and Simon turned the sod on Boherboy Rd affordable housing scheme today. 140+ homes

thejuggler

CorkCraneCount wrote: »

I can't attach the link properly because I'm not allowed as a new user, but Irish Examiner reporting story that:

An Bord Pleanala have approved the increase in building size and apartment numbers for the Horgan's Quay development

www 😀 irishexaminer 😀 com/breakingnews/ireland/abp-approve-plans-for-302-apartment-complex-on-corks-north-docks-964566 😀 html

Anyone know if these are being built to let or if the apartments are for sale?

marno21

Not sure if this was posted here

The "Penrose Dock West" development has been appealed to ABP by the same objector to the Events Centre

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/305838.htm

marno21

Also, Glenveagh have entered into SHD consultation with ABP for 449 units (315 houses + 134 apartments) at Maryborough Ridge

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/305825.htm

fonecrusher1

marno21 wrote: »

Not sure if this was posted here

The "Penrose Dock West" development has been appealed to ABP by the same objector to the Events Centre

http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/305838.htm

Yeah and I'm sure the appropriate level of consideration will be applied to the objection given his mental idea's for what the Event Centre site should be used for.

rob316

Lotabeg Affordable Housing Scheme announced.

Proposed breakdown of housing mix:

Price Range of the 116 affordable units as follows:
2 Bedroom dwelling – from € 198,000 / 3 Bedroom dwelling – from €223,000
The above cost reflects service sites funding & Help to Buy Scheme operated by Revenue for eligible purchasers.
30 Month project delivery programme (5 Phases) Construction to commence October 2019.
Rebuilding Ireland Home Loan Examples: Based on a joint application with income of €75,000

2 & 3 Bedroom Dwellings

2 Bedroom Dwelling 3 Bedroom Dwelling
Selling Price € 198,000 €223,000
Loan Value €178,200 € 200,700
Interest Rate 2% 2%
Loan Term 25 years 25 years
Monthly Repayment (TRS incl.) €785.00 €865.00

I wouldn't be sold on Mayfield but €220k on 2% fixed 25 year mortgage sounds very good too me.

Hopefully we see more of these, considering you can get 5 times your joint income on the Rebuilding Home Loan Ireland. A couple on minimum wage should be able to qualify for this.

opus

About time something happened on this site near the Lough.

Housing development planned for former Lough Tavern

bladebrew

Why are they using that income figure for affordable housing? Is that a max threshold or something?
A couple on €75000 combined can borrow just over €260000+deposit, there are plenty of houses around cork for that, They would be buying at 280k-285k,

rob316

bladebrew wrote: »

Why are they using that income figure for affordable housing? Is that a max threshold or something?
A couple on €75000 combined can borrow just over €260000+deposit, there are plenty of houses around cork for that, They would be buying at 280k-285k,

Ya that's the max 75k but they will let you borrow 5 times that capped at to 320k build value in Cork.
There isn't any new build 3 beds for 220k in the city not even close.

fonecrusher1

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Appeal-lodged-with-An-Bord-Pleanala-against-Penrose-Quay-development-ae6b1308-61dc-4bed-a1b5-17a646d0f702-ds

In her original objection lodged with City Hall, the appellant said that the development is too tall to be built so close to the city centre.

It’s also claimed the structure is “far too massive and too dominant and too simple a design.”

:rolleyes:

That's a lot of too's.

Justin Credible Darts

she is a tool

fonecrusher1

What's the story with lodging objections? Can you just stroll in off the street and object to a proposed building because you're having a bad day or looking for attention or do you actually have to build some sort of case for your objection with some sort of research or impact study or anything other than I object just because I feel like it?

Justin Credible Darts

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

What's the story with lodging objections? Can you just stroll in off the street and object to a proposed building because you're having a bad day or looking for attention or do you actually have to build some sort of case for your objection with some sort of research or impact study or anything other than I object just because I feel like it?

why is an artist from dublin who does not even live in the city object ?

Thats akin to me in cork complaining about something in galway because my wife nagged me.

chalkitdown1

What I don't understand is why it takes 5 months to tell this woman to piss off with her nonsense objections.

The fact that one person with spurious objections can hold up projects of this scale is insane to me.

How is there not a better system in place to prevent idiots doing this?!

fonecrusher1

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

What I don't understand is why it takes 5 months to tell this woman to piss off with her nonsense objections.

The fact that one person with spurious objections can hold up projects of this scale is insane to me. How is there not a better system in place to prevent idiots doing this?!

These are the idiots who's appeals (moaning) should be fast-track reviewed then a decision made in weeks not months. I understand there is a need for an appeal system but it seems these appeals fall into two types:

1. Genuine appeals with actual work put into them to demonstrate a genuine concern.

2. Just being a pain in the hole, complaining about anything new or just looking for attention.

The latter should be reviewed fairly but swiftly then thrown into the bin. Its incredible someone can walk in off the street and object without any effort put into the objection and this delays projects by months even years.

Meursault

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

These are the idiots who's appeals (moaning) should be fast-track reviewed then a decision made in weeks not months. I understand there is a need for an appeal system but it seems these appeals fall into two types:

1. Genuine appeals with actual work put into them to demonstrate a genuine concern.

2. Just being a pain in the hole, complaining about anything new or just looking for attention.

The latter should be reviewed fairly but swiftly then thrown into the bin. Its incredible someone can walk in off the street and object without any effort put into the objection and this delays projects by months even years.

Its very difficult to separate out appeals like this, unfortunately. Presumably, they have to treat all appeals as the same, regardless of whether they are complete bullsh*t (as is this appeal) or not.

In a weird way, the fact that she is a serial appellant, will no doubt work against her appeal, as it won't be taken seriously.

Unfortunately it appears that every new project greater than two storeys that is announced will likely be met with a similar appeal from the same person. Its all very frustrating. Particularly the appeal against the event centre, which appears to be cursed at this stage.

rob316

No way should one individual be able to hold up a capital project.

chalkitdown1

Once this appeal is rejected, do they open it up for more appeals again or was that it? Hoping for the latter, obviously.

calnand

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

These are the idiots who's appeals (moaning) should be fast-track reviewed then a decision made in weeks not months. I understand there is a need for an appeal system but it seems these appeals fall into two types:

1. Genuine appeals with actual work put into them to demonstrate a genuine concern.

2. Just being a pain in the hole, complaining about anything new or just looking for attention.

The latter should be reviewed fairly but swiftly then thrown into the bin. Its incredible someone can walk in off the street and object without any effort put into the objection and this delays projects by months even years.

And further to this, ban them from making appeals for any project for say one year.

snotboogie

I wouldn't be too wound up, this has the looks of a get planning and flip it site too. I have never heard of Karmex Ltd

Mefistofelino

snotboogie wrote: »

I wouldn't be too wound up, this has the looks of a get planning and flip it site too. I have never heard of Karmex Ltd

AFAIK, Karamex belongs to the Kevin O'Leary family ( motor dealers). They used to operate a car dealership on Penrose Quay in the 1990s/2000s

Rhys Essien

I’m not sure about this.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/plans-for-100m-850-job-kildare-village-style-retail-centre-on-outskirts-of-cork-city-revealed-965917.html

opus

Few pics from a visit to UCC earlier.

The new student hub

The student apartments site on the Mardyke

Hadn't realised just how big a site this was 'til I saw the hoarding go up. Nice place to live but guess it won't make the existing residents very happy.

fonecrusher1

In fairness it ain't the prettiest of buildings. Its completely at odds with its surroundings but I don't live anywhere near it so i'm not going to get all hot n bothered about it. How is it that this slips under the radar somehow yet the tall building proposals on Port of Cork wasteland have the usual moaners foaming at the mouth!

Chris_5339762

Rhys Essien wrote: »

I’m not sure about this.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/plans-for-100m-850-job-kildare-village-style-retail-centre-on-outskirts-of-cork-city-revealed-965917.html

I'm on the fence about it. Will make that junction a disaster on Saturdays and coming up to Christmas....