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Selling house because of Youth problem

mondeo

I live in Dublin 24 area, We made a hard decision today that it is in our interest to sell our house for safety and peace reasons.The reason is Youths... Our house is a cornor house and has been the victim of stone throwing, our cars have been damaged in our driveways several times. Have CCTV and security motion activated lights, may aswell have nothing there at all. They don't care, these young lads are all around the place every night of the week, friday and saturday night in particular has become nerve wrecking.. I find myself running to the windows everytime our security lights are triggered to see who is out there. This is no way to live....

All of this has been happening over the past year, maybe a little longer. My partner doesn't want to live in the house anymore and neither do I. It's fine during the day time, after 7pm it's stressing us out. We are contacting an estate agent on Monday morning to get the ball rolling so we can get out of here. It's so sad since the house is all paid for and everything. We don't want to move terribly far because we work pretty close to our house. One thing is for sure, wherever we move to is not going to be anywhere near council estates ! Our house unfortunately is very near a council estate and this is where we believe these little scruffy bastads are spawning from. This could go on for years and years, so we are getting out now.

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Berserker

Gael23 wrote: »

Who else do you think would want to live there! Better have the house flattened

There'll be a queue of people looking to buy it. The local estate agents will see to that.

Deleted User wrote: »

Which "left wing" government would this be??

I've lived here for 25 years and I can't think of one that hasn't been left leaning.

deandean wrote: »

You used to be able to have a chat with your local Sinn Fein TD or counsellor and these type of anti social issues would be sorted.

SF thrive in these areas. They are part of the problem. They support and enable this behaviour.

tastyt wrote: »

A few others have said this, if you can, get out of the city, its turning into an absolute dump.

Totally agree. Would buy a one off build down the country, if I was ever buying a home here. Took risky buying in an estate due to the issues noted in this thread and I wouldn't trust the people that build those houses either. Those houses are thrown up in no time.

Wanderer78

Berserker wrote: »

There'll be a queue of people looking to buy it. The local estate agents will see to that.

I've lived here for 25 years and I can't think of one that hasn't been left leaning.

SF thrive in these areas. They are part of the problem. They support and enable this behaviour.

Totally agree. Would buy a one off build down the country, if I was ever buying a home here. Took risky buying in an estate due to the issues noted in this thread and I wouldn't trust the people that build those houses either. Those houses are thrown up in no time.

this should be interesting! like who, and in what way have they been left leaning?

Berserker

Wanderer78 wrote: »

this should be interesting! like who, and in what way have they been left leaning?

Left leaning on every social issue for starters. Divorce, abortion, LGBTQ+ rights off the top of my head.

Wanderer78

Berserker wrote: »

Left leaning on every social issue for starters. Divorce, abortion, LGBTQ+ rights off the top of my head.

thats not necessarily left leaning, not exactly conservative either mind you

Berserker

Wanderer78 wrote: »

thats not necessarily left leaning, not exactly conservative either mind you

What would you call it then?

Wanderer78

Berserker wrote: »

What would you call it then?

more liberalism than anything. its clearly obvious, our leading parties, and governments that they have created, are more economically conservative, engaging in, or try to be, more conservative by nature, by 'balancing the books', so to speak, even running surpluses at times. theyve also engaged in more conservative activities such as austerity etc. this is the most common outcome across the world, particularly in western nations , as we all have engaged in market based ideologies, and funnily enough, we re all ending up with the same or similar problems, particularly socially. left leaning, i dont think so!

Cee-Jay-Cee

I done the same thing back in 2010. Our house and cars were egged every weekend, there was a street light outside our house and it attracted them like moths every night. We made the decision to move out and do put the house up for sale and started looking for a new house. We moved out of town completely to a house in the country and couldn’t be happier.

Do it OP, life is too short, move now and enjoy your life again.

Grab All Association

The problem is Lone Parent Payments and Child Benefit. The Cash and Co types essentially become farmers with a herd of children. Maybe once a week stuff a greasy takeaway down their throats and you’ve really to do nothing else. Every goblin dropped out of her is a 7 years extension of her entitlement to sit on her ass.

The only way to stop these anti social problems is to cap welfare payments to a maximum of 2 children until the child is 2 years old. Scrap child benefits and administer it another way. Get rid of Lone parent welfare payments for under 18s (excluding disability allowance) to discourage teen pregnancies in certain cultures and prioritise social housing for single people to discourage queue jumping.

Your Face

OP is in a very similar situation to a friend of mine.
He lives in a corner house in the East side of Galway City. He's always dealing with his house being targeted. He hopes to move to the country as soon as he can.
There's no consequences for the young lads that attack his property.

Berserker

Wanderer78 wrote: »

more liberalism than anything.

Social liberalism, I would say in that case. I would associate that with the left.

Wanderer78 wrote: »

its clearly obvious, our leading parties, and governments that they have created, are more economically conservative, engaging in, or try to be, more conservative by nature, by 'balancing the books', so to speak, even running surpluses at times. theyve also engaged in more conservative activities such as austerity etc. this is the most common outcome across the world, particularly in western nations , as we all have engaged in market based ideologies, and funnily enough, we re all ending up with the same or similar problems, particularly socially. left leaning, i dont think so!

Do you think that they've been economically conservative w.r.t the topic being discussed in this thread? They been very generous when it comes to social payments. They've coupled generous social payments with conservative acts such as austerity but middle class workers were the primary targets when it came to austerity. These trouble makers are not middle class.

Jamie2k9

Could buy a Mosquito alarm which might deter loitering.

Galwayguy35

The only silver lining here is that a lot of these scumbags will die young and do society a favour but unfortunately they will have bred the next generation before the drugs, smokes and dutch gold put them in a brown box.

I feel for the OP, it's like all the odds are being stacked against decent hard working people these days and the Government is doing nothing only rewarding the workshy scroungers.

kildare lad

My friend and he's wife paid big money for a house and in the affordable section in the estate theres nothing but ex junkies and stay at home parents with loads of kids , while everyone else is working to pay for their home , the spongers pay next to nothing and sit around watching telly while their kids run amok .

Bargain_Hound

mondeo wrote: »

God knows how long it will take to sell the house, could take 6 months, I want to request with the estate agency we end up going with that they do not put a "For Sale" sign outside the house so no one knows we are moving... We think things will get worse if they see a sign outside the house.

We are looking to move maybe D16, it's not miles away but it's all private, or maybe somewhere in D14. I have always liked these areas and back in the day we did look at buying a house out there but they were much more expensive, I totally understand why now. More then likely when we sell our house, we will have to get another small mortgage to pay the price difference for a house in a nicer area. That's fine with us since we are still relatively young and don't mind paying off another part of a mortgage.

Looking forward to going out and viewing new houses in the new year, our last xmas in this house really makes me happy and buzzy inside. It's great we finally made a decision on this.

We went with this approach. Kept it quiet, no for sale signs, sold the second day it went up online. Thankfully the new buyer viewed on a quiet day. Still shocked it ever sold.

Paddy Cow

Bargain_Hound wrote: »

We went with this approach. Kept it quiet, no for sale signs, sold the second day it went up online. Thankfully the new buyer viewed on a quiet day. Still shocked it ever sold.

Were they buying to move in or to rent it out?

Leg End Reject

Do the councils buy hoses in established private estates?

antodeco

I really fear for how the next generation will need to live. The way the country had changed in the last 20/30 years, makes it scary for the next 20/30 years

_Kaiser_

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Do the councils buy hoses in established private estates?

The councils seem to be buying up pretty much anything and everything they can get their hands on at this stage with predicatable results.

Although there are exceptions, generally people who get everything handed to them for free or next to nothing rarely appreciate it.

celticWario

Wanderer78 wrote: »

this should be interesting! like who, and in what way have they been left leaning?

This is going off topic massively but pro-divorce, pro gay marriage and pro abortion as well as a very generous social welfare system are all left wing policies.

Berserker

antodeco wrote: »

I really fear for how the next generation will need to live. The way the country had changed in the last 20/30 years, makes it scary for the next 20/30 years

I'd say that Dublin and the commuter belt will be full of no-go areas. One of my mates is convinces that'll end up like LA, which is a horrible dump.

Leg End Reject wrote: »

Do the councils buy hoses in established private estates?

Pretty much. One of my friends paid €660K for her house. It's a lovely detached house, four bed in a small, old estate. The council bought the house two doors down from her recently.

Leg End Reject

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

The councils seem to be buying up pretty much anything and everything they can get their hands on at this stage with predicatable results.

Although there are exceptions, generally people who get everything handed to them for free or next to nothing rarely appreciate it.

Berserker wrote: »

Pretty much. One of my friends paid €660K for her house. It's a lovely detached house, four bed in a small, old estate. The council bought the house two doors down from her recently.

So it's all a lottery then. Buy in a nice area and hope no one sells up.

Potential-Monke

Berserker wrote: »

One of my friends paid €660K for her house. It's a lovely detached house, four bed in a small, old estate. The council bought the house two doors down from her recently.

If i paid that much for a house and that happened, it would sicken my shit...

Berserker

Leg End Reject wrote: »

So it's all a lottery then. Buy in a nice area and hope no one sells up.

Yep, not a chance in hell that we'd buy in Dublin/Kildare etc. If we were going to buy here, it'd be a one off build down the country, on a nice plot of land. You are still only 1.5 hours from Dublin, which is nothing. I used to spend two hours a day driving in and out of Houston for work. My wife drove to Dallas every week or so and that was a three hour drive.

AlphabetCards

The direction the country is taking is scary.

celticWario

Unless parents are held responsible for the actions of their little angels then nothing will change, also a two tier curfew, one for under 16 and one for under 18's should be trialed.

Bargain_Hound

Paddy Cow wrote: »

Were they buying to move in or to rent it out?

Move in.

NickNickleby

Hi OP,

if the local Gardai could be persuaded to take an interest, it might be solvable, but that's a pretty big if (we spent two years trying to get action, which eventually worked, thank God).

Anyway, the only hopefully practical advice I can offer is to remove any signs of intensive surveillance, as surely that would cause potential buyers to wonder why its necessary - it would for me, anyway.

Good luck!

Jimbob1977

My friend bought his first home in City West back in 2001. It was the height of the Celtic Tiger and people were property crazy.

He lived there a few years with his young family. His neighbours were of a similar background and demographic.

When the crash came, he wanted to move his family to a larger and quieter place, so he relocated to a rural village. He signed a ten-year deal with South Dublin County Council to rent the house out for social housing. Guaranteed rent.

Every once in a while, an appliance breaks in the rented house. When he visits, he is always shocked at the deterioration if the place. Mildew, grubby, above average wear and tear, appliances that just 'broke' without a good explanation. The tenant was almost zero respect for the property.

Looking around the estate, he says it has slumped dramatically. Reckons it will be a problem area within 10 years. He has no interest in living in City West again. But he'd probably have to take a haircut on the selling price!

dd973

Funny how these characters who do this stuff think they're so 'hard' or 'badass'.

Always mob handed, never on their own, enjoy making others uncomfortable but would evacuate their bowels in two seconds in a warzone or a boxing ring.

Just like the workplace bully who knows full well that their quarry has their hands tied by wearing the psychological and financial shackles of being 'at work', usually in a supplicant position, and cannot tell their tormentor to 'F*** off' or mete out some rougher justice.

mondeo

I bet the council wouldn't buy up houses around D4 to house people from the list in, D4 is the Beverly Hills of Dublin. The area will depreciate in value and the government wouldn't allow that anyways since it's where most of them are living themselves. All the big earners have their D4 homes. Imagine paying over 1 million + for a 3 bedroom semi in D4 compared to €370,000 for a 3 bedroom house in D24, only to have a family of wasters move in next door to you throwing garbage over your back wall. I doubt it would happen, it wouldn't happen.There would be murder if it did. The council will gladly buy up property in all the lesser private areas though, downgrading the value of everyone elses house there. Firhouse for exampe has fallen victim to this.