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Autumn 2019 - General Discussion

Artane2002

It's a nice, sunny start to Autumn 2019 in Dublin 5.

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Gonzo

a cold sunny morning here in Meath, There was some frost yesterday evening but none when I woke up this morning. The next few days looks like a bit of a break from all the heavy rains and may allow the ground to dry up a little bit, but it won't be enough to stop the risk of flooding once the heavy rains come back in about 5 days time. We need at least 2 weeks without rain to properly start drying out the land here.

sryanbruen

Dunsany's wettest autumns on record back to 1964:

Rank|Rainfall total (mm)|Year
#1|364.3|2009
#2|360.3|1995
#3|358.6|2006
#4|340.5|2000
#5|335.0|1975
#6|327.1|2010
#7|321.2|2002
#8|314.7|2019*
#9|313.1|1976
#10|307.1|2011

*2019's total is up to November 14th.

Data from Met Éireann.

Gonzo

sryanbruen wrote: »

Dunsany's wettest autumns on record back to 1964:

Rank|Rainfall total (mm)|Year
#1|364.3|2009
#2|360.3|1995
#3|358.6|2006
#4|340.5|2000
#5|335.0|1975
#6|327.1|2010
#7|321.2|2002
#8|314.7|2019*
#9|313.1|1976
#10|307.1|2011

*2019's total is up to November 14th.

Data from Met reann.

With 2 weeks of autumn left we are 50mm off the 2009 record. Looking at the rainfall predictions between now and November 30th, we could easily get 50mm of rainfall. It won't take much rain to beat the 2002, 2010 and 1975 totals.

Oscar Bravo

Tis lovely out

Rock Lesnar

Perfect autumn day, clear sky, sunshine and chilly, loads of cloud to my east and south east, hopefully it stays away

Mortelaro

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Perfect autumn day, clear sky, sunshine and chilly, loads of cloud to my east and south east, hopefully it stays away

Didn't stay away from Arklow
There from the get go
Little spits of rain all day

Gaoth Laidir

Nice crunch back in the fallen leaves this evening after these two days without rain. Garden clean-up starts tomorrow...

JanuarySnowstor

This cold spell is starting to drive me nuts. It's freezing cold day and night yet we're struggling to even get a frost. Even tonight it's still 6C here yet it feels bitter!

igCorcaigh

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

This cold spell is starting to drive me nuts. It's freezing cold day and night yet we're struggling to even get a frost. Even tonight it's still 6C here yet it feels bitter!

It takes time to acclimatise... Best leaving yourself feel the cold for a bit!

Goldfinch8

A calm, cool overcast morning in Co. Mayo. Last night's early frost has thawed. Darker greys in the sky out beyond Croagh Patrick suggest the later arrival of an incoming weather front.

Meteorite58

Got down to -0.4C here near Tralee

appledrop

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

This cold spell is starting to drive me nuts. It's freezing cold day and night yet we're struggling to even get a frost. Even tonight it's still 6C here yet it feels bitter!

Remember now it's not winter according to boardies on this thread!

JCX BXC

appledrop wrote: »

Remember now it's not winter according to boardies on this thread!

Oh my god give it a rest for goodness sake, are you 12?

Naggdefy

appledrop wrote: »

Remember now it's not winter according to boardies on this thread!

According to meteorologists since at least 1659 when the Royal Scientific Society was setup. I don't think any boardsie is that old

appledrop

Naggdefy wrote: »

According to meteorologists since at least 1659 when the Royal Scientific Society was setup. I don't think any boardsie is that old

Ha you never know! Seriously though it's nearly too cold to be out + about.

We are out in park in all weathers but today really getting into the old bones!

Brrrrr. Back to house for some warm drinks + cosy heating

Naggdefy

appledrop wrote: »

Ha you never know! Seriously though it's nearly too cold to be out + about.

We are out in park in all weathers but today really getting into the old bones!

Brrrrr. Back to house for some warm drinks + cosy heating

Ok. Stay warm anyway. If older/ill we really feel the cold more.

Under the weather with a chest infection and feel cold too.

Goldfinch8

Apart from a few light drops of rain about two hours ago, it has turned into a surprisingly pleasant afternoon here in this part of the West. A nice few bonus rays of November sunshine here at the moment in relatively calm conditions.
(Apologies for non introduction so far. Long time lurker on this forum for many years with a passion for weather and the great outdoors. Have always enjoyed the many contributions of the regular posters here and the great weather experts. Decided that it was eventually time to jump in myself! Situated approximately 11kms east of Castlebar.)

JCX BXC

Completely dry here in West Clare but with lots of upper cloud. Overnight min of -0.1°c and daily max of 6.9°c recorded about half an hour ago.

hatrickpatrick

The reason for the disconnect between meteorological and cultural seasons (being one month out of sync essentially) in Ireland is because of seasonal lag - meteorological winter is centered around when we’re climatologically likely to be coldest vs warmest, whereas in Ireland (and other Celtic countries) cultural winter is centered around sunlight and the solstices and equinoxes, with each constituting the midway point of their corresponding seasons. Because the climate takes roughly one month to catch up with changes in the Earth’s rotation, these two paradigms are one month out of sync with eachother.

Most meteorologists will refer to the seasons based on their meteorological terms, while most Irish people will have learned in school (with poems and mnemonics to help remember) that the seasons begin and end one month earlier than their meteorologically interested bretheren. Neither view is right or wrong, so as far as I’m concerned the annual arguments about whether November counts as Winter and February counts as Spring are hilariously predictable and woefully pointless. What matters here is what kind of weather we’re going to get, dammit

pad199207

High today of only 3.4c in Kildare

Gonzo

pad199207 wrote: »

High today of only 3.4c in Kildare

Bitterly cold alright, temperature didn't get above 3.6C here either, this is the worst type of cold too, mostly cold rain and damp.

compsys

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The reason for the disconnect between meteorological and cultural seasons (being one month out of sync essentially) in Ireland is because of seasonal lag - meteorological winter is centered around when we’re climatologically likely to be coldest vs warmest, whereas in Ireland (and other Celtic countries) cultural winter is centered around sunlight and the solstices and equinoxes, with each constituting the midway point of their corresponding seasons. Because the climate takes roughly one month to catch up with changes in the Earth’s rotation, these two paradigms are one month out of sync with eachother.

Most meteorologists will refer to the seasons based on their meteorological terms, while most Irish people will have learned in school (with poems and mnemonics to help remember) that the seasons begin and end one month earlier than their meteorologically interested bretheren. Neither view is right or wrong, so as far as I’m concerned the annual arguments about whether November counts as Winter and February counts as Spring are hilariously predictable and woefully pointless. What matters here is what kind of weather we’re going to get, dammit

“And other Celtic countries“?

As far as I’m aware Ireland is the only country in the world where November is commonly referred to as winter and February as spring etc.

In other countries there’s no difference between the people and the meteorologists. Everyone agrees that November is autumn and February still winter etc.

Oneiric 3

Based on seasonal, or average long-term 3 month running temps alone, Summer begins in Ireland around the 15th of June and ends around the mid-September as this is the warmest 12 week period on average, whereas the coldest 12 week period tends to be from around mid December to mid-March.

One curious little trait of the Irish weather is that sub-zero temps occur with notably high frequency in the closing days of Feb and opening days of March as compared to other periods in Winter.

ZX7R

First time in my life I am feeling the cold in some of my joints especially my knee,
Jesus the pain when out in the cold.
Starting to feel fragile ha ha

hatrickpatrick

compsys wrote: »

“And other Celtic countries“?

As far as I’m aware Ireland is the only country in the world where November is commonly referred to as winter and February as spring etc.

In other countries there’s no difference between the people and the meteorologists. Everyone agrees that November is autumn and February still winter etc.

I always assumed Scottish and Welsh people also considered winter to begin in November and Spring to begin in February, but perhaps Ireland is the last holdout?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter#Meteorological_reckoning

In Celtic nations such as Ireland (using the Irish calendar) and in Scandinavia, the winter solstice is traditionally considered as midwinter, with the winter season beginning 1 November, on All Hallows, or Samhain. Winter ends and spring begins on Imbolc, or Candlemas, which is 1 or 2 February. This system of seasons is based on the length of days exclusively. (The three-month period of the shortest days and weakest solar radiation occurs during November, December and January in the Northern Hemisphere and May, June and July in the Southern Hemisphere.)

pad199207

Perhaps a bit OTT but I suppose some folk would be vulnerable with -4c and below

Status Yellow - Low-Temperature warning for Connacht,Cavan,Monaghan,Donegal,Carlow,Kildare,Kilkenny,Laois,Longford,Louth,Offaly,Westmeath,Meath,Clare,Cork,Kerry,Limerick,Tipperary

Very cold tonight. Minimum air temperatures will range -2 to -4 degrees Celsius. Widespread severe frost with the risk of icy patches.

Valid: Sunday 17 November 2019 20:00 to Monday 18 November 2019 09:00

ZX7R

pad199207 wrote: »

Perhaps a bit OTT but I suppose some folk would be vulnerable with -4c and below

Status Yellow - Low-Temperature warning for Connacht,Cavan,Monaghan,Donegal,Carlow,Kildare,Kilkenny,Laois,Longford,Louth,Offaly,Westmeath,Meath,Clare,Cork,Kerry,Limerick,Tipperary

Very cold tonight. Minimum air temperatures will range -2 to -4 degrees Celsius. Widespread severe frost with the risk of icy patches.

Valid: Sunday 17 November 2019 20:00 to Monday 18 November 2019 09:00

Can't remember the last time we had a proper frost day , clothes frozen on the line ECT

Xenji

A low temperature warning out.

Status Yellow - Low-Temperature warning for Connacht,Cavan,Monaghan,Donegal,Carlow,Kildare,Kilkenny,Laois,Longford,Louth,Offaly,Westmeath,Meath,Clare,Cork,Kerry,Limerick,Tipperary

Very cold tonight. Minimum air temperatures will range -2 to -4 degrees Celsius. Widespread severe frost with the risk of icy patches.

Valid: Sunday 17 November 2019 20:00 to Monday 18 November 2019 09:00

Issued: Sunday 17 November 2019 11:00

m17

Tuam Co galway 17/11/19

Gonzo

Met Eireann calling for another extremely wet week across the east and south with up to 200% above normal rainfall. By this time next week, records could already be broken for Autumn rainfall totals in Dunsany and probably other stations too. We only need another 50mm of rainfall over the next 2 weeks to beat the all time Autumn rainfall record.