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Greta and the aristocrat sail the high seas to save the planet.

Jimmy Garlic

Climate saint Greta Trunburg is settling sail for UN climate talks in New York to demand that governments socially engineer and tax the little people into oblivion to save the planet. Accompanied by her film maker father who lives vicariously through her, a filthy rich aristocrat from Monaco and some German bloke the trip will no doubt vastly increase the wattage of her halo before she lectures us all about impending climate Armageddon in New York. Hopefully snaps from the trip will make it into Hello! Magazine.

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high_king

Has greta made public how she's getting back yet ? Another billionaires yaught ?

Tell me how

high_king wrote: »

Has greta made public how she's getting back yet ? Another billionaires yaught ?

Getting back where?

She's already on a yacht on the way to Spain for the global conference.

high_king

Tell me how wrote: »

Getting back where?

She's already on a yacht on the way to Spain for the global conference.

Ah the yachting life for all of us soon no doubt :rolleyes:

windy shepard henderson

Tell me how wrote: »

How is dividing the total output, by the total population false when it is done in for every country?

Does this not give a figure of, this is the CO2 which this country needs to function as it currently operates and so is comparable from one country to the next.
The total power stations would have been factored in to their total output, it's not like they were ignored.

What do you want to look at, if not data?

It's false because it's not accurate

How is it possible that Germany have several coal burning power stations that dwarf our 1

Which is the biggest emissions output in this county, but for some reason we have a higher level of emissions then Germany...... How does this work, its rubbish

SafeSurfer

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

So what remains to be learnt or proven?

Models currently cannot predict the weather in a weeks time and you are suggesting that the models predicting weather in 100 years are perfect, therefore there is nothing left to learn?

sk8erboii

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

It's false because it's not accurate

How is it possible that Germany have several coal burning power stations that dwarf our 1

Which is the biggest emissions output in this county, but for some reason we have a higher level of emissions then Germany...... How does this work, its rubbish

LOL. How is it Ireland has a higher GDP than Germany even though the population is lower?

They have a bigger economy and industrial output... how does this work its rubbish

Tell me how

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

It's false because it's not accurate

How is it possible that Germany have several coal burning power stations that dwarf our 1

Which is the biggest emissions output in this county, but for some reason we have a higher level of emissions then Germany...... How does this work, its rubbish

I have looked in a number of locations, and in no place can I see Germany being listed as having smaller per capita numbers than Ireland.

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emissions

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/ireland/germany?sector=CO2+tons+emission+per+capita&sc=XNC1#tbl

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita

I don't know how you have been able to determine that the data is false.

windy shepard henderson

It's totally rubbish,

It's all fabricated bull****,

I have always maintained there are serious problems to be dealt with, but this stuff is only crap

Tell me how

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

It's totally rubbish,

It's all fabricated bull****,

I have always maintained there are serious problems to be dealt with, but this stuff is only crap

The links I posted have different origins and pretty much corroborate the respective values.

What evidence have you to counter this other than saying it is BS?

windy shepard henderson

Tell me how wrote: »

I have looked in a number of locations, and in no place can I see Germany being listed as having smaller per capita numbers than Ireland.

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-countrys-share-co2-emissions

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/ireland/germany?sector=CO2+tons+emission+per+capita&sc=XNC1#tbl

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita

I don't know how you have been able to determine that the data is false.

So what you are saying is our 1 coal burning power station oughtweighs several German ones that produce much more emissions

Moneypoint is our biggest output for emissions in Ireland

There are 4 or 5 power stations in Germany with bigger emissions each per station

Yet you somehow managed to come up with some data o to prove I am wrong

Please tell me how 1 power station in Ireland is a bigger emissions output then 4 or 5 Germany ones

Tell me how

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

So what you are saying is our 1 coal burning power station oughtweighs several German ones that produce much more emissions

Moneypoint is our biggest output for emissions in Ireland

There are 4 or 5 power stations in Germany with bigger emissions each per station

Yet you somehow managed to come up with some data o to prove I am wrong

Please tell me how 1 power station in Ireland is a bigger emissions output then 4 or 5 Germany ones

Per. Capita.
Do you know what that means?

So, say they have even 15 times the number of coal burning plants as we do, but nearly 17 times the population of ours, then the emissions for each individual person in Germany are smaller than in Ireland.

And Germany's per capita value is greater than ours, as listed in links above.

windy shepard henderson

I know exactly what it means

The environment dose not work ón a per capita basis, it works on what is emitted to the atmosphere

Germany emmit far more then we do and it should be based on nothing else,

Averages and pet capita bull**** are only to hide the bigger country's output

Tell me how

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

I know exactly what it means

The environment dose not work ón a per capita basis, it works on what is emitted to the atmosphere

Germany emmit far more then we do and it should be based on nothing else,

Averages and pet capita bull**** are only to hide the bigger country's output

Of course the environment doesn't work on a per capita method.

But, it is fair to say that CO2 produced are 'generally' associated with the number of people in the country. Energy, travel, industry etc, so the use of per capita is an objective reference between countries that are largely similar in how they function.

The 197 countries which signed the Paris accord are ok with such reference points, why is it not good enough for you?
And, what would you advise in its place which would take in to account the number of people living in the country?

windy shepard henderson

Answer me this....., do you think the atmosphere knows what countries signed up or didn't or even what was being agreed

How dose a per capita system stop a marsk shiping vessel from dumping its rubbish in the ocean

Moneypoint dose not output more then German power stations, Irish people do not put more emissions in the air then Germany so end the bull****

Tell me how

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Answer me this....., do you think the atmosphere knows what countries signed up or didn't or even what was being agreed

How dose a per capita system stop a marsk shiping vessel from dumping its rubbish in the ocean

Moneypoint dose not output more then German power stations, Irish people do not put more emissions in the air then Germany so end the bull****

Point in bold first, the figures quoted DO say that Germany emits more emissions than Ireland.

Your other two points? I have no idea what you are trying to say.

windy shepard henderson

Tell me how wrote: »

Point in bold first, the figures quoted DO say that Germany emits more emissions than Ireland.

Your other two points? I have no idea what you are trying to say.

If moneypoint is the biggest emitting system on the island but no where near the German levels I imagine we are way behind

The per capita data is only useful if peoples farts :rolleyes: are taking into consideration, it's nonsense

Tell me how

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

If moneypoint is the biggest emitting system on the island but no where near the German levels I imagine we are way behind

The per capita data is only useful if peoples farts :rolleyes: are taking into consideration, it's nonsense

You can imagine all you want, it's just a pity you're going from thread to thread here decrying climate change activists and the need for coordinated efforts when you don't understand the topic

Dr. Bre

You will get your climate taxation you crave. Won’t do anything tho

Eric Cartman

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

I know exactly what it means

The environment dose not work ón a per capita basis, it works on what is emitted to the atmosphere

Germany emmit far more then we do and it should be based on nothing else,

Averages and pet capita bull**** are only to hide the bigger country's output

Which is why the entire world should focus on condemning china, india , south american and african countries before trying to tax europe to death

vriesmays

That would be considered racist by these morons.

suicide_circus

Dr. Bre wrote: »

You will get your climate taxation you crave. Won’t do anything tho

nothing fits as well as a hair shirt

fly_agaric

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Which is why the entire world should focus on condemning china, india , south american and african countries before trying to tax europe to death

Notice you left the US out of your (s)hit list. Why was that?
IMO "We" should focus on getting our own house in order (and reducing trade with/penalising those who blatently refuse to do anything and use their freedom to emit and pollute away to their hearts content to outcompete businesses here).

Eric Cartman

fly_agaric wrote: »

Notice you left the US out of your (s)hit list. Why was that?
IMO "We" should focus on getting our own house in order (and reducing trade with/penalising those who blatently refuse to do anything and use their freedom to emit and pollute away to their hearts content to outcompete businesses here).

Because the US and europe are already in the gaze of the climate mafia. The fact that they wont target these other countries is just more proof on the pile that this is an attempt to import socialism and oppressive taxation to wealthy white countries and nothing to do with the planet

fly_agaric

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Because the US and europe are already in the gaze of the climate mafia. The fact that they wont target these other countries is just more proof on the pile that this is an attempt to import socialism and oppressive taxation to wealthy white countries and nothing to do with the planet

So many American political buzz-words it is hard to know what to say.
Why should someone living here say (or indeed elsewhere in Europe) "target" other countries for their political activism around climate change in preference to trying to make changes here?
They have to sort themsleves out...there is no "white man's burden" any more.
"We" sort ourselves out and (possibly) push others (including the US) in right direction by insisting on considering environmental policy when it comes to trade and foreign relations generally. It is funny that you left the US off your list as they are per capita the worst by quite a long way and they have a large and (compared to Europe) a more rapidly growing population.

high_king

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

The environment dose not work ón a per capita basis, it works on what is emitted to the atmosphere

What a joke these green nazi's are, by their logic China is per captia, must most environmentally friendly county in the world . .lol

Eric Cartman

fly_agaric wrote: »

So many American political buzz-words it is hard to know what to say.
Why should someone living here say (or indeed elsewhere in Europe) "target" other countries for their political activism around climate change in preference to trying to make changes here?
They have to sort themsleves out...there is no "white man's burden" any more.
"We" sort ourselves out and (possibly) push others (including the US) in right direction by insisting on considering environmental policy when it comes to trade and foreign relations generally. It is funny that you left the US off your list as they are per capita the worst by quite a long way and they have a large and (compared to Europe) a more rapidly growing population.

This entire thread is about a swedish girl travelling around rich countries that arent sweden telling them to change their ways...

windy shepard henderson

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Which is why the entire world should focus on condemning china, india , south american and african countries before trying to tax europe to death

My point exactly

windy shepard henderson

Tell me how wrote: »

You can imagine all you want, it's just a pity you're going from thread to thread here decrying climate change activists and the need for coordinated efforts when you don't understand the topic

I understand the topic, but you cant base emissions on a per capita basis

It simply won't add up,

Tell me how

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

I understand the topic, but you cant base emissions on a per capita basis

It simply won't add up,

Can you suggest an alternative barometer by which companies can objectively assess their behaviour versus others?

windy shepard henderson

Tell me how wrote: »

Can you suggest an alternative barometer by which companies can objectively assess their behaviour versus others?

For a start it should be on a basis of, If a country has more factory's, cars, power plants, people ect... Then it would surely have a greater impact on emissions then a smaller country