MadYaker wrote: » You don't understand the topic if that's what you think. I'm past caring about this anyway. I think it's hopeless and we can't change our ways so were fcuked. The consequences won't fully manifest in our lifetimes hopefully.
riffmongous wrote: » Because we already have much higher base economies and standard of living than the developing countries. Why would they limit themselves at all if we don't? It's a compromise to achieve something, and one which we are still well placed to work with thanks to our advanced economies. Indian emissions need to controlled soon before they explode like the Chinese did 30 years ago and without pressure and compromise that won't happen. I don't support turning ourselves into a basketcase while letting China and India emit without consequence, but I haven't seen anything proposed that will lead to that either.
physioman wrote: » What does a ten year old really know about the environment. Sounds like a government led drive to introduce environment taxes. Not a great believer in global warming. Would be more concerned with water quality in the long term and maintaining it's quality.
Black Coffee 122 wrote: » What is the evidence that man made climate change is taking place? Everyone seems so certain about it, is there convincing evidence?
Motivator wrote: » Are these people actually serious with this climate carry on? Why do they all look and sound the same? Specky twats with terrible names and even worse fake accents. When will this end?
boring accountant wrote: » We have higher base economies and yet our carbon emissions are a fraction of theirs. If we can be satisfied with 2% growth so should they.
Motivator wrote: » Ireland represents 0.06% of the worlds population. What we do in this country has absolutely no impact on the world’s climate. At 36 years of age, I really don’t need to be lectured by some jumped up privately schooled toadface on a Friday evening telling me to buy second hand jeans in order to save the planet.
tonycascarino wrote: » I'd rather Ireland be nuked if this is the type of young people we are raising.
bfa1509 wrote: » We could always emigrate to these countries in large numbers, claim asylum, create a no-go area and sponge the system
Wibbs wrote: » They already are albeit in small ways in the environment at least as far as the average person goes, but I agree with you M, we can;t change our ways, at least not in the long term, we tend to think in the here and now and that seems to be increasing with the fast pace of change most of us live in today. The idea of changing now for something that might happen in five years time is outside most people's wheelhouse, the idea of a century or two from now is off the radar entirely.
riffmongous wrote: » I think what's really going to be important though is making sure that developing countries don't exponentially increase their emissions, like China did from the early 90s until now. So we don't need to change that much, but it's needed in order to strongly encourage other countries to follow our lead...
Lilyana Small Shorts wrote: » You seriously think China is going to follow the lead of an insignificant island on the edge of Western Europe?
Duke of Url wrote: » Why?
tonycascarino wrote: » Brainwashed Greta Thunberg types. If they are acting like this now then they will be serious pain in the holes as adults.
Richard Hillman wrote: » Basically, the plan is to turn Ireland into a full on socialist country and they are indoctring the youth to get them onside. When socialism kicks in people usually end up complaining that there is no fresh meat (push for veganism), no savoury foods (Sugar tax), no free speech (hate speech laws) nobody allowed to leave the country and fuel shortages (carbon tax). So they're getting in the usual downsides for socialism and telling you it's for your our own good. When the green socialists get their way and Ireland is a complete basketcase, do you honesty think China, India, Nigeria, USA etc are going to be cutting their omissions the way we are? They will and their bollox.
CalamariFritti wrote: » So your conclusion is that nobody is going to do anything out of fear that all the others won't do anything either and so doing something would put you at a serious disadvantage. And what difference is anyone on their own going to make anyway - unless China...and socialism And then we hope that it all goes away or turns out out to be nothing to begin with. Is that the plan then?
The chan chan man wrote: » Well.. Im going off to absolutely molest my fleshlight
Wibbs wrote: » +1 D, whatever about temps I have noticed a huge change in insect life in my lifetime. Maybe more than most as I grew up fly fishing with my dad(yep he once caught a ten pound bluebottle etc ). The species of flies on rivers and their environs has gotten much narrower and fewer in number. There are artificial flies I used as a kid, even twenty years ago that are only for decoration now. The naturals are either gone entirely or so small in number the trout don't focus on them the way they used to. Even oddball indicators like of all things cowpats in the fields. When I was younger, again even twenty years ago, you'd have a swarm of flies on them that would shoot up into the air as you walked by one. Not any more in the areas I fish anyway. They also don't rot into the earth nearly so quickly either, they just dry out. Another thing I've noticed, as have mates around my age, are the lack of dead flies splattered on the front of our cars. When we were kids the front of a car that had gone on a summer run "down the country" would be a holocaust of flying insects. Ditto for windscreens. These days? Not nearly so much. Now one mate suggested cars are far more aerodynamic these days, which is true, but another friend made the point that he drives vans and they're about as aerodynamic as a housebrick and the front of his company's vans are pretty free of splatted insects. If the insects and all those pollinators like bees and the like die off, even go to much lower levels, the human race is utterly fucked.
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