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M7 - Naas/Newbridge Bypass Upgrade [Junction 9a now open]

JupiterKid

Following on from the suggestion of a poster, this thread has been set up to discuss the need for widening the M7.

The section of the M7 IMO in immediate need (really a backlog need) for widening is the section from the Maudlins Interchange at Naas to the M9 interchange - basically the original 1983 Naas Bypass and half of the 1993 Newbridge Bypass. Is this likely to proceed in the near future?

Would the central median be wide enough for widening to D3M here? I'm pretty sure it is wide enough on the Newbridge bypass section but I'm not so sure in the case of the Naas Bypass.

Also, what bridges will need to be demolished and rebuilt? Or would it be more practical to drop the hard shoulder through the existing bridges?

What about the proposal a few years back to build a new junction at on the Naas Bypass at Osberstown? Will it still go ahead?

In the longer term, does anyone see a need to widen the M7 to the N7/M8 junction?

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_Kaiser_

sedona23 wrote: »

Work started on the new roundabout on Clane road out of Sallins

Is the plan ultimately to bypass both Sallins and Clane almost as far as Maynooth.. or just Sallins itself?

beertons

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Is the plan ultimately to bypass both Sallins and Clane almost as far as Maynooth.. or just Sallins itself?

Sallins.

jmkennedyie

There is no alignment defined for an equivalent Clane bypass. Clane LAP does have strategic reservation from the Celbridge Road to the Liffey...but what happens South of Liffey is anyone's guess and a Clane bypass is many years away. In the interim I expect some of the various inner relief roads connecting e.g. Kilcock Rd to Celbridge Rd, Kilcock to Ballinagappa, Ballinagappa to Prosperous, etc to be constructed incrementally ~as per LAP as relevant land is developed. Bits of these have already been built.

Edit: if you are aiming M7 > Maynooth best bet maybe J7 Kill > Straffan > Maynooth

road_high

Naas north exit all cones off this evening with nothing going on. Still random cones and barriers allover the place.
New M9 exit appears terrible I hope that’s not the finished article as it’s way worse than old one- tonight one exit lane that randomly becomes two

Ash.J.Williams

sallins road was busy anyway!

L1011

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Is the plan ultimately to bypass both Sallins and Clane almost as far as Maynooth.. or just Sallins itself?

The Clane 'relief road' through estates does the job adequately well even in the mornings - unless things have taken a huge turn for the worse since I last used it!

champchamp

jmkennedyie wrote: »

Edit: if you are aiming M7 > Maynooth best bet maybe J7 Kill > Straffan > Maynooth

Even after the Sallins bypass opens? Would it not be a few minutes quicker going by Clane instead of Straffan?

jmkennedyie

Hopefully better outside of rush hour, but currently Sallins slows traffic to Clane at rush hour - and frequently there are queues into Clane even at it stands. Sallins bypass will open the tap, and also encourage people currently taking other routes. I expect Clane traffic will clog sooner and for longer around peaks. Only time real-time traffic-aware maps will tell which will be faster when....

Also, if ABP continue approving developments that go way beyond housing densities in Clane LAP, exploding local/commute car use, traffic will only get worse.

Mantis Toboggan

Why the slip southbound at junction 9 isn't open is a mystery. Seems like it's ready to open, hasn't been touched in months just covered up in bollards. Absolute pain.

BuzzFish

Heard locally that the delay on J9a is down to both esb networks proving power and Millennium Park management not wanting the Junction open until bypass is complete. They need to sign it off apparently?!?!?

Just some local rumours I heard.

WhatsGoingOn2

BuzzFish wrote: »

Heard locally that the delay on J9a is down to both esb networks proving power and Millennium Park management not wanting the Junction open until bypass is complete. They need to sign it off apparently?!?!?

Just some local rumours I heard.

If it did open it would cause traffic chaos going into Naas in the evenings. Traffic is already very backed up due to slow traffic going through Sallins. I'd say that is why they want to wait for the bypass to be complete.

harr

WhatsGoingOn2 wrote: »

If it did open it would cause traffic chaos going into Naas in the evenings. Traffic is already very backed up due to slow traffic going through Sallins. I'd say that is why they want to wait for the bypass to be complete.

Seen two cars one behind the other head up this slip road yesterday... it wasn’t very well coned off unless the cones were moved and in all fairness it does look finished... traffic was heavy at the time and sure enough they reappeared coming back down other slip rejoining the motorway.
Now I don’t know if they were acting the maggots or genuinely made a mistake.

BuzzFish

Can see out the windows of Kerry Group that the traffic on the Millennium Park road is down to one lane right now with a stop and go while they complete tie in from junction to the roundabout and complete signage on the Millennium park road.

Surely that means this will open before next March

_Kaiser_

Pretty bad flooding in the outside lane just south of the J10 merge this evening. Same again a few hundred metres after the Carlow exit.

Bit more to be done there I reckon

harr

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Pretty bad flooding in the outside lane just south of the J10 merge this evening. Same again a few hundred metres after the Carlow exit.

Bit more to be done there I reckon

Seen this over the weekend on the way back from Dublin seemed to be a lot of surface water on various sections around the Naas exits .

Mantis Toboggan

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

Why the slip southbound at junction 9 isn't open is a mystery. Seems like it's ready to open, hasn't been touched in months just covered up in bollards. Absolute pain.

And its finally open! Could have been done much sooner.

BuzzFish

M9 Northbound off-peak Lane Closure
M7 Naas-Newbridge By-Pass Upgrade Scheme

Please note the following temporary off-peak lane closures commencing from Wednesday, 13 November 2019.

From 10.00am each morning until 5.00am the following morning, the right-hand lane of the M9 Northbound motorway will be temporarily closed on approach to the M7 Eastbound carriageway.

These temporary closures will be in place for approximately two weeks, Monday to Friday each week.

These temporary closures are necessary in order to facilitate essential works on the M7 Upgrade project.

http://kildare.ie/CountyCouncil/PressReleasesAdverts/M9Northboundoff-peakLaneClosure.html

pad199207

Kerry Group Junction will open in early December
Sallins Bypass itself will be open by April 2020

fullstop

pad199207 wrote: »

Kerry Group Junction will open in early December

Where did you hear that?

BuzzFish

Local councillor in Naas has posted that the exit at 9a is opening start of December.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=565380030957854&id=326703511492175

Darc19

M7 to be completed by Monday December 9th.

Speed limit will return to 120kmh that day.

Jct 9a to open on 6th December.

Roundabouts on jct 10 overpass to be fully operational by 9th Dec.

Cazale

Darc19 wrote:

M7 to be completed by Monday December 9th.

Hallelujah!

Pitch n Putt

It’ll be completed alright but it’s a car park now from Naas to the Redcow .

Spent a year and a half sitting in traffic whilst the project was going on in the hope of a big improvement.

Big improvement outgoing definitely but total disaster incoming from Johnstown.
There will be no mention of this when all the back clapping happens on 9th December.

Mrs Dempsey

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

......Big improvement outgoing definitely but total disaster incoming from Johnstown.
There will be no mention of this when all the back clapping happens on 9th December.

Problem identified - mandatory swipe made @ "system". Now if you were in a pivotal position within the "system" what solutions might you have?

tom1ie

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

It’ll be completed alright but it’s a car park now from Naas to the Redcow .

Spent a year and a half sitting in traffic whilst the project was going on in the hope of a big improvement.

Big improvement outgoing definitely but total disaster incoming from Johnstown.
There will be no mention of this when all the back clapping happens on 9th December.

What did you expect? Upgrading a road inbound towards Dublin does not improve traffic levels.
The only way you tackle that is by building a p+r and having top class public transport going from the p+r to key areas within Dublin.
That's not on the agenda though.

satguy

One small step for commuters,, One giant leap for middle lane drivers..

Tomrota

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

It’ll be completed alright but it’s a car park now from Naas to the Redcow .

Spent a year and a half sitting in traffic whilst the project was going on in the hope of a big improvement.

Big improvement outgoing definitely but total disaster incoming from Johnstown.
There will be no mention of this when all the back clapping happens on 9th December.

Well the only way to fix this is to have effective public transport (DART, metro, park and ride, or all of the above) along or connecting with the N7 corridor. None of which is on the agenda by this government - I mean if Dublin can’t even get a metro what chance do the commuters on the N7 have? There isn’t even plans to improve the buses along this corridor, so you and all of us are going to be wasting our lives sitting on this road for the foreseeable future.

Pitch n Putt

Mrs Dempsey wrote: »

Problem identified - mandatory swipe made @ "system". Now if you were in a pivotal position within the "system" what solutions might you have?

Get the many thousands of vehicles heading north via Redcow and m50 away from that bottleneck. Go cross country from Sallins to M1

Get some employment down the country. Dublin is not Ireland.

How long do we wait to address this problem?

Do we keep creating all these jobs in Dublin and wait until the traffic is backed up to the M9/M7 merge going into Dublin??

Plan for the future before it arrives instead of wasting millions and no improvement at all.

Pitch n Putt

tom1ie wrote: »

What did you expect? Upgrading a road inbound towards Dublin does not improve traffic levels.
The only way you tackle that is by building a p+r and having top class public transport going from the p+r to key areas within Dublin.
That's not on the agenda though.

Why waste millions then if the plan wasn’t to improve the situation ?
What was the purpose of the project then?

Have a nice shiny road for us all to look at while crawling along at 30km/hr and taking 50mins to travel 20km upon completion ???

Darc19

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

It’ll be completed alright but it’s a car park now from Naas to the Redcow .

Spent a year and a half sitting in traffic whilst the project was going on in the hope of a big improvement.

Big improvement outgoing definitely but total disaster incoming from Johnstown.
There will be no mention of this when all the back clapping happens on 9th December.

From day 1, TII always stated that it would make no difference to commutes to Dublin, but a big difference to the journey home.

Where there has been a difference is that there has been zero accidents northbound since the third lane opened.

There used to be one a week at a mimimum