Briain O Loinsigh wrote: » Hello , I'm traveling in busy traffic last week coming from ballymount and as I come to walkinstown roundabout ,there's a space cadet on a scooter essentially navigating the total roundabout. He cut three Lanes and proceeded on the inner part of the roundabout , he resembled a fly hovering a ultra Violet light in a butcher shop. Seriously , some of these guys have absolutely no road experience and are a danger to all road users ,I can't say including themselves because they cannot be road users. Hopefully we come up with something before they get genuine ebike users a blanket ban on all battery operated equipment.
donvito99 wrote: » We have reached peak motorist hysteria when somebody on a shaggin battery powered scooter is a danger to ALL roadusers
Briain O Loinsigh wrote: » Some of these lads are on footpaths and cycle Lanes , no regard. I was on my bike and nearly collided with one. Some of them have no regard for any road users ,pedestrians ,cyclists , motor cyclists , cars , trucks , buses and their own safety. I've a wide view on road users , not individuals
LeinsterDub wrote: » I was nearly selected to play county and then I nearly won the lotto and the I was nearly a Hollywood star
AlekSmart wrote: » As it currently stands,all we are waiting for is the,now inevitable,fatality involving an e-scooter user being killed by a Truck/Bus or car.
magicbastarder wrote: » sounds like we should do something about these dangerous 'car' things.
pablo128 wrote: » We already are. My missus just got a newer car. Not anything particularly fancy or big, but it has a feature called 'autonomous braking'. This will automatically apply the brakes without any driver input if it senses an imminent collision, whether it be another vehicle, or a pedestrian. Tell me, is there and scooter, bicycle, or any other 2 wheeled or self propelled vehicle with such a feature?
donvito99 wrote: » Isn't it telling that we now need to make cars that will stop automatically because their drivers won't
pablo128 wrote: » Isn't it telling that cars are available with this feature, because some dopey cyclists, pedestrians and other road users can't mind themselves or go through red lights etc. As it happens, most of this model of car doesn't have this feature, just the highest spec ones. I guess you better hope you cycle out in front of my missus and not someone else who couldn't quite stretch to the top spec.
donvito99 wrote: » We have a thread about the supposed danger of e-scooters and yet 150ish people are still dying on the roads every year thanks to, you guessed it, your missus' cohort in their cars. That's not to mention all the traffic your missus is causing our cities. Get her an bicycle, e-bike or e-scooter and suddenly there's no need for high spec features to make up for shoddy Irish drivers.
is_that_so wrote: » And they they still can't do that either! As for the e-scooter thing, some effort ends to be made to regulate their use and where they can and can't go. Seems users are just making it up. As a road user they don't bother me, despite my own personal views about the activity, and any encounters as a pedestrian, to me have shown user caution.
pablo128 wrote: » I was in Spain this year walking along a footpath, when 2 lads on these scooters came up behind us blasting their horns for us to move. Cheeky little fcuks.
pablo128 wrote: » We are not peasants who have to cycle to work. We like to travel in comfort, with the heating/aircon on, dry as a bone, and not soaked in sweat before we begin our days work. I did it for long enough when I was younger. It's not for me anymore.
donvito99 wrote: » Jaysis it's not wonder we are the most congested city in Western Europe. Ban the bikes, scooters and mandatory high spec imported car to go everywhere. Problem solved
E-scooters were already banned from Singapore's roads but they are now prohibited on all pavements and other footpaths, and can only be used on cycle paths and a network of routes connecting parks. To start with, most riders caught breaking the rule will be given a warning but from January, offenders face being jailed for up to three months and fined.
pablo128 wrote: » You must be under the illusion that Ireland is some sort of cycling Utopia. It certainly isn't. Holland is. I have lived there. The most remote country town there has proper cycling facilities. However the whole country is completely flat, to the extent that most bicycles you would see in everyday use are single speed. 49 cc mopeds are allowed in cycle lanes, and don't need insurance. However these vehicles and bicycles stay in the cycle lanes, and everyone else stays out of them. They also have right of way at junctions. Everyone is on the same page.In Ireland every road user is lumped onto the same piece of tarmac. Cyclists won't use cycle lanes, scooters should be, but aren't, and zero policing of any of it. So the crux of my argument is that we won't be giving up our cars any time soon.
AlekSmart wrote: » In the midst of much of the apparent quest to bring society back to a quieter,less frantic way of life,where gentlemen doffed their hats to ladies,and children were seen and not heard,the reality is of our roads being FAR safer than at any point in our history,in spite of there being far more drivers and vehicles than ever.
Stark wrote: » At some point horseless carriages gave way to the motor car as it was more convenient for people, despite the obvious drawbacks when it came to safety. Public transport infrastructure in this country is full of gaps and it seems scooters are plugging that gap. The safety drawbacks seem to be vastly vastly over-stated.
whisky_galore wrote: » A horseless carriage IS a motor car!
Working class heroes wrote: » At the moment they are illegal and should not be on a road or footpath. They are leaving themselves open to been arrested or worse.
magicbastarder wrote: » arrested? i don't think it's a criminal offence to use one, but a civil offence. not sure what the 'or worse' means though.
donvito99 wrote: » That's not to mention all the traffic your missus is causing our cities. Get her an bicycle, e-bike or e-scooter and suddenly there's no need for high spec features to make up for shoddy Irish drivers.
Working class heroes wrote: » So you agree it’s an offense then? You can use your imagination on what might be worse.
