malinheader wrote: » When this country is pushing an agenda as hard as this you can be sure it sees pound signs somewhere. Tax,tax,tax and Joe public will be the ones paying.
gozunda wrote: » . . . You couldn't make it up - except they do ....
Pa ElGrande wrote: » The politically correct term for what RTE did is disinformation and fake news. They are abusing trusted authoritative voices like Gerald Fleming and their own standing as the Irish states public service broadcaster to foist an agenda on the Irish public that is unsupported by empirical data and relies on biased projections generated by people using computerised models and graphics. The fact that these are computer simulations with a track record for inaccuracy is never explained to the public.
Day Lewin wrote: » There's a damn sight more profit to be made from digging up the earth's dwindling resources, processing them, manufacturing into crap there is no real need for, and selling them on to a consumer who has been trained to incessantly purchase stuff, AND leaving it to that same purchaser to discard the whole bag of tricks, somehow.
Day Lewin wrote: » That oil to make those plastic clothes, packets, toys, furniture etc doesn't go back into the oilwells, you know.
Day Lewin wrote: » Fracking in your corner of Ireland? Fancy it?
Day Lewin wrote: » Ask yourself, who makes the biggest profit here? Climate scientists in some underfunded university? Or huge corporations who need to go on selling?
Day Lewin wrote: » Loss of bio-diversity is barely visible because it is slow, gradual, subtle. But it does have downstream effects. Food will get more expensive. Transport also. Watch this space!
easypazz wrote: » . . Here is the data since 1993, if it stays on the same path or accelerates remains to be seen.
Pa ElGrande wrote: » Even those numbers don't support the 300mm to 400 mm figures allegedly quoted by Gerald Fleming nor does that level support apocalyptic computer generated images of flooding in O'Connell Street as promoted in that RTE program.
easypazz wrote: » If that trend continues then it would be ~265mm in 80 years and ~100mm by 2050. "They" are predicting an acceleration in sea level rises from here. "They" being articles on the internet, of which there are many, its hard to know which ones to believe though. The sea will need to go from rising 3.3mm a year to 13.3mm per year on average.
Pa ElGrande wrote: » Exactly, the problem you are wrestling with is how to measure sea level rise and fall and how those numbers are derived, it's not easy to measure this and the figures you are reporting are just assumptions. What are those assumptions we don't know? - but "they" have constructed a computer model based on the how they think the world works and fed it some data and then produced the number which then gets broadcast in the media. That number has no basis in reality i.e. when measured in the real world. Another factor to consider centering on O'Connell Street and the quays is that is all reclaimed land. The original river crossing from which the name Baile Atha Cliath derives was supposedly around where Hueston station is today and the original Viking settlements from which the name Dublin (the true meaning is lost in time) derives were not where the Custom house is today which was mud flats then. That area is all reclaimed, built and maintained by human engineering, therefore there is an engineering solution to any flooding that may or may not occur in the future. There is no cause for alarm.
JanuarySnowstor wrote: » Fell asleep watching tonight's programme. I think since George took over the environment at Rte they've all gone into hyper mode. 10 years ago the economy had us doomed now it's global warming!! Lol
Ruthless cold breaks dozens of long-lasting records in major cities throughout the East
"A warming center is a heated facility where Chicago residents can go to find refuge from extreme cold weather conditions," the city wrote. "During the winter months, the Chicago Department of Family and Support Services (DFSS) operates six warming centers inside of the City’s six community service centers during work weekdays when temperatures dip below 32 degrees. Additional City facilities including, libraries, police stations or other structures might be made available after hours, on weekends, or on holidays, as conditions warrant."
gozunda wrote: » RTE is spending its money on tabloid style TV programmes in a bid to desperately increase viewer ratings. The stuff they are producing is truely worthy of a whole raft of Saturn Awards. Alongside the doomsday buses drowning on O'Connell Bridge and amongst other things we are also supposed to now take dietary advice from extremist plant food activists such as Dr Marco Springmann in their other recent screamers piece on planetary destruction - "What Planet are you on". The same show where participants get paid for their 'wokeness'. You couldnt make it up - except they do .... I believe Al Gore came out with similar bs doomsday alarmism over a decade agohttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/earthnews/3310137/Al-Gores-nine-Inconvenient-Untruths.html
TheRiverman wrote: » Very one sided agenda driven programme tonight.
NIMAN wrote: » This might sound like a stupid question, but those images they showed were meant to highlight that Dublin would permanently have this water level, ok? So if the centre of Dublin was flooded all the time like that, why would you drive a double decker bus through it? How stupid are Dublin Bus??:rolleyes:
Naggdefy wrote: » George 'Lorenzo' Lee. My new name for him after his self indulgence for the 'hurricane' that had a max gust of 107km over Ireland.
Gaoth Laidir wrote: » Here's the full annual minimum Arctic sea ice volume dataset for the satellite era, with the trend for the past decade. In any case, sea ice has practically zero contribution to sea level.
CrankyHaus wrote: » Any mention in the show about RTE's generous use of taxis on expenses and the carbon generated by such single-passenger journeys? From the RTE Secret Producer: 8:20 PM - 17 Sep 2017 People are asking me good things to FOI - start with looking at taxis - especially ones booked 8AM to 11AM in the morning going to RTÉ and 5PM to 10PM in the evening going from RTÉ. They are mainly staff using them and claiming them back even though it is private travel.
riffmongous wrote: » Your first link is blocked by my adblock.. tracker warning. Might be worth doing a scan if you aren't aware Eh, you wouldn't be presenting a 5 year time block as evidence here would you? The irony
Liffey4A wrote: » I always trust your opinion on this forum, always the voice of reason but have you any links to explain the artic/Greenland ice melt or lack there off? I'm not doubting you but all mainstream media is saying the opposite. I'd be interested in seeing the data for myself.
Dakota Dan wrote: » Do you not think that they all have to sing of the same hymn sheet when pushing a worldwide agenda?
Faustino wrote: » I’m certain man made pollution is having some sort of effect ‚
Gaoth Laidir wrote: » Here's the full annual minimum Arctic sea ice volume dataset for the satellite era, with the trend for the past decade. In any case, sea ice has practically zero contribution to sea level. Extent is similar. All data here. Greenland melt area has reduced over the past decade. From here and here. Regarding Greenland fisheries, was that piece actually shot now in November? I didn't see it. In any case, the subpolar gyre is anomalously cold over the past several years and may be signalling the decline in the positive AMO we've had since the mid-'90s.
NSIDC scientist Julienne Stroeve was one of the contributors to the chapters on sea ice and Arctic amplification—the outsized rise in Arctic air temperatures compared to the globe as a whole. One of the drivers of the special report is recognition that the oceans play a key role in the changing climate system, absorbing 90 percent of the excess heat within Earth’s system and up to a third of the carbon dioxide. Sea ice also reflects much of the sun’s energy back out to space, helping to keep the planet cooler than it otherwise would be. There is high confidence that the Arctic sea ice cover will continue to shrink (Figure 6).
The effects of anthropogenic warming are not as clear in the Antarctic, in particular for sea ice trends. This results in low confidence in any forecast of how Antarctic sea ice will evolve. The report also highlights how permafrost and snow cover are expected to change, as well as sea level rise from glacier and ice sheet mass losses. Given that the Antarctic ice sheet is starting to contribute more each year to global mean sea level rise, the potential for a meter (3.28 feet) of sea level rise by the end of the century remains possible. A key message of the report is that limiting global warming to a total of less than 2 degrees Celsius (4 degrees Fahrenheit) by the end of the century will help to mitigate the negative effects of climate change.
Neddyusa wrote: » "Eh" - as you say yourself - firstly, he was not relying on any "5 year time block" as evidence. Secondly, he provided the September Ice data on two charts - one for the last 40 years and one for the last decade. He gave a total of 8 referenced charts - and you choose to sneer the post because you don't like one of them. Sorry - there is nothing ironic in that.
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