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Galway traffic

ben.schlomo

Seemed light this evening, seeing as there doesn't seem to be a thread on traffic here I said I'd start this due to the importance of the issue.

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timmyntc

John_Rambo wrote: »

Same with the workplace smoking ban, the plastic bag levy, the pedestrianisation of Shop st., segregated cycle lanes etc.... But they were all brilliant ideas that worked very well.

Congestion charges won't work until there's a credible alternative.
Right now it would just be a needlessly punitive tax.

Create a bus service that gets people to where they want to go, then talk about congestion charges.

xckjoo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How incentives/disincentives can address congestion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX_Krxq5eUI

Yea or nay, should Galway City look at congestion charges as a way of reducing congestion?

If they build the new road they should. Restructure the existing roads to highly prioritse other modes of transport, stick a toll on the new bridge and congestion charge in the city. Then if you want to drive you can but other modes have a high incentive to use. Can include exemptions for those who have no choice but to use a car or similar (trades people, disabled, etc.).

John_Rambo

timmyntc wrote: »

Congestion charges won't work until there's a credible alternative.
Right now it would just be a needlessly punitive tax.

Create a bus service that gets people to where they want to go, then talk about congestion charges.

Agreed. Huge investments need to be redirected back to the cities to improve and prioritise all manners of public transport.

[Deleted User]

John_Rambo wrote: »

Agreed. Huge investments need to be redirected back to the cities to improve and prioritise all manners of public transport.

Redirected back into cities? What a joke especially from a Dub where all the money in the country goes.

timmyntc

John_Rambo wrote: »

Agreed. Huge investments need to be redirected back to the cities to improve and prioritise all manners of public transport.

The only huge investments needed are to turn all roundabouts in city to signalised junctions. That hardly necessitates a new tax just to fund it.

After that city council can turn 1 lane each way on the N6 to bus lanes - that only takes a bit of paint

Then run buses from knocknacarra all along the N6 ending at either galway clinic or oranmore - that would serve the majority of destinations in & around the city

John_Rambo

Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »

Redirected back into cities? What a joke especially from a Dub where all the money in the country goes.

I'm afraid it's the other way around bro. Cities like Galway are the backbone of the economy, they subsidise the rural areas. No way round it, same all over the world.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/dublin-generates-56-of-irish-tax-but-cant-keep-a-cent-of-it/

[Deleted User]

John_Rambo wrote: »

I'm afraid it's the other way around bro. Cities like Galway are the backbone of the economy, they subsidise the rural areas. No way round it, same all over the world.

http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/dublin-generates-56-of-irish-tax-but-cant-keep-a-cent-of-it/

Nonsense of the highest order, playing with stats to suit a narrative simple as that

50% of the workforce in Galway live outside the city for example and in no way are their taxes going back to their areas. Dublin in particular sucks up all the money in the county and rural and country areas are neglected.

[Deleted User]

Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »

Nonsense of the highest order, playing with stats to suit a narrative simple as that

50% of the workforce in Galway live outside the city for example and in no way are their taxes going back to their areas. Dublin in particular sucks up all the money in the county and rural and country areas are neglected.

I'm curious what a properly funded countryside would look like?
Around me over the past several years we've had 60 odd kilometres of motorway, a brand new secondary school in Claregalway which is already being extended, a brand new Eduate Together primary school building, two new schools of 1,000 pupils each in Athenry, new stretches of N road outside Headford and Tuam, the extension of the gas pipeline into the county, reopening a disused rail line, building a new station.

John_Rambo

Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »

Nonsense of the highest order, playing with stats to suit a narrative simple as that

50% of the workforce in Galway live outside the city for example and in no way are their taxes going back to their areas. Dublin in particular sucks up all the money in the county and rural and country areas are neglected.

Other way around bro. Don't know why you're dragging Dublin in to the Galway traffic thread.

Dublin forum that way East >>>>>

what_traffic

Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »

50% of the workforce in Galway live outside the city for example and in no way are their taxes going back to their areas.

Yes 50% of the workforce in Galway City live outside the city. So YES Galway City is the economic backbone of the Co. Galway economy.

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm curious what a properly funded countryside would look like?

It would have gigabit fibre broadband going up every boreen for the fifteen people that live up there, plus a Bus Eireann bus every fifteen minutes, just in case any of them want to go to the shop - all so that they live five minutes walk from de Mammeh, though they'd never think of actually walking there in a fit.

[Deleted User]

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

It would have gigabit fibre broadband going up every boreen for the fifteen people that live up there, plus a Bus Eireann bus every fifteen minutes, just in case any of them want to go to the shop - all so that they live five minutes walk from de Mammeh, though they'd never think of actually walking there in a fit.

You left out the air ambulance in every village

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

You left out the air ambulance in every village

You won't need the chopper when you have a fully staffed A&E unit and cancer treatment centre.

Storm 10

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

You won't need the chopper when you have a fully staffed A&E unit and cancer treatment centre.

There is a always going to be the need for the Air Ambulance when you need to get to hospital in the golden hour 12 minutes last week from Castlerea to UHG try that by ambulance

Wompa1

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm curious what a properly funded countryside would look like?
Around me over the past several years we've had 60 odd kilometres of motorway, a brand new secondary school in Claregalway which is already being extended, a brand new Eduate Together primary school building, two new schools of 1,000 pupils each in Athenry, new stretches of N road outside Headford and Tuam, the extension of the gas pipeline into the county, reopening a disused rail line, building a new station.

Yep, in fairness Headford has seen some decent investment over the last few years with the improvements on the N84, the investment into the Moyne Villa grounds and playground, the improvements to the schools, the broadband finally getting there and now being expanded out to Shrule. Could still use more frequent buses and a better library but sure, look it....

There's talk of a swimming pool too but usually when there's talk, it's probably 10+ years away.

beardybrewer

Hmm. A bit quiet in here. What do ye think about this then?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/drivers-to-receive-fine-and-penalty-points-for-dangerous-overtaking-of-cyclists-1.4079342

zell12

It's quiet because there are no traffic issues :pac:

what_traffic

beardybrewer wrote: »

What do ye think about this then?

So rare to see Gardai on streets/roads here in Galway City in comparison with Dublin City cannot see it making much of difference TBH.

If anybody is actually at the Next City JPC could ask Superintendent - how many fines for dangerous overtaking have been issued since the Mon, Nov 11, 2019 in Galway City; would be able to provide it at the next meeting.

UsBus

zell12 wrote: »

It's quiet because there are no traffic issues :pac:

Traffic has been insane this week. I've travelled in the curragh line and through claregalway and both routes have been chronic at 7.00-7.30 in the morning. It feels like it has gotten much worse in the last couple of years. The evening traffic is brutal as always trying to get out of parkmore and heading north.

It's not sustainable anymore, am actively pursuing other jobs to get out of Galway at this stage.

flazio

Roundabout coming off the motorway, why weren't there electronic signs put up warning motorists about the works?

Johnny_BravoIII

beardybrewer wrote: »

Hmm. A bit quiet in here. What do ye think about this then?

Mods killed the previous thread. Super active, engaged, lots of different points of view. Whats the point.

John_Rambo

Johnny_BravoIII wrote: »

Mods killed the previous thread. Super active, engaged, lots of different points of view. Whats the point.

Agreed. Last thread had great insights from locals, commuters, public transport users, cyclists, tradespeople with real needs to use vans etc... A good snapshot thread lazily closed down to avoid a bit of tidying up.

RE; the overtaking cyclist rule? Most fines will come from camera footage from cyclists or witnesses.

Mrs OBumble

John_Rambo wrote: »

RE; the overtaking cyclist rule? Most fines will come from camera footage from cyclists or witnesses.

I'm curious, does the rule apply both ways, ie cyclists must not undertake without 1.5m clearance?

John_Rambo

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I'm curious, does the rule apply both ways, ie cyclists must not undertake without 1.5m clearance?

No. Cyclist can filter passed stopped or slow moving traffic safely with mm to spare.

Nobody, safely seat belted in a 2 tonne car surrounded by metal and glass has ever been injured by someone cycling by them.

what_traffic

John_Rambo wrote: »

No. Cyclist can filter passed stopped or slow moving traffic safely with mm to spare.

Nobody, safely seat belted in a 2 tonne car surrounded by metal and glass has ever been injured by someone cycling by them.

In fairness I think Mrs OBumble is very concerned for wing mirrors getting grazed from passing elbows. The Irish Association for Wing Mirrors has been highlighting this threat for years now.

[Deleted User]

UsBus wrote: »

Traffic has been insane this week. I've travelled in the curragh line and through claregalway and both routes have been chronic at 7.00-7.30 in the morning. It feels like it has gotten much worse in the last couple of years. The evening traffic is brutal as always trying to get out of parkmore and heading north.

It's not sustainable anymore, am actively pursuing other jobs to get out of Galway at this stage.

Traffic has had its normal (unexplainable) post midterm ease imo. I travel in from the county leaving home at around 9am and before midterm I was still getting held up in traffic but since midterm I’ve no holds ups in the morning and the evening is similar travelling home at 6:30pm or later I’ve no traffic issues.

John_Rambo wrote: »

No. Cyclist can filter passed stopped or slow moving traffic safely with mm to spare.

Nobody, safely seat belted in a 2 tonne car surrounded by metal and glass has ever been injured by someone cycling by them.

What about damage to cars, wing mirrors, handle bars scraping cars etc?

timmyntc

Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »

What about damage to cars, wing mirrors, handle bars scraping cars etc?

All the more reason to want segregated cycle lanes

WallyGUFC

Traffic definitely worse this week, roadworks in Oranmore not helping that side, especially in the evening. Parkmore was a nightmare last night for people getting out of the estates. The general standard of driving seems to be getting worse too, which I didn't think was possible.

phelant

John_Rambo wrote: »

No. Cyclist can filter passed stopped or slow moving traffic safely with mm to spare.

Nobody, safely seat belted in a 2 tonne car surrounded by metal and glass has ever been injured by someone cycling by them.

Physically at any rate. The way some cyclists carry on is a mental assault to any law abiding motorist.

DuckSlice

Jazmin Harsh Gold wrote: »

What about damage to cars, wing mirrors, handle bars scraping cars etc?

Jump out of the car, drag them off the bike and give them a good talking to.