Russman wrote: » Very interesting article by TC. I suspect the UK just don't expect to be treated like a bona fide 3rd country on 1st Feb, more like a trusted neighbour, and everything can be done with a wink and a nod because ".....after all, we were members up til yesterday, sure you know us etc etc.....". They're in for a rude awakening methinks. Although, that said, the Tory ministers will hardly be anxious to broadcast the concessions they'll have to make in the negotiations, and Harry from Huddersfield will have next to zero interest in the FTA discussions and details, so, with a compliant press, they may well be able to spin it that they "got the job done" and that'll be enough for the leavers.
briany wrote: » Isn't Boris Johnson's deal really just no-deal by the back door? Pundits are sceptical that an FTA can be arranged by the end of 2020, and Johnson is currently saying he will not extend the transition period. If the Conservatives get a large enough majority, they could perhaps shoot down the possibility of adding amendments to the deal that would give parliament more control. In that case, it's really a shrewd move for the BP to support it. Better for them that no-deal happens a little later than not at all.
Leroy42 wrote: » But it is necessary to maintain the idea that no extension will be sought as it allows them to peddle the lie that Brexit is almost done and voting for Labour will mean an extension.
Leroy42 wrote: » Surely that means that the alignment will need to be maintained,so the UK will be a rule taker and lost their ability to influence. Ireland will have a greater say in the future of UK trade than the UK will!
At an award ceremony in Germany, the entrepreneur announced: “We've decided to put the Tesla Giga factory Europe in the Berlin area.” And, speaking to Auto Express, he blamed Brexit uncertainty for his decision to drop plans to build a research and development base in the UK, which will now also go to Germany. “Brexit made it too risky to put a Gigafactory in the UK,” Mr Musk said, referring to Tesla’s new battery and electric vehicle.
Speaking to Auto Express after making the announcement, Musk said: “Brexit [uncertainty] made it too risky to put a gigafactory in the UK.”
CelticRambler wrote: » When all is said and done, it probably won't matter. If the electorate return a Johonson-Cummings government on the strength of a promise to get Brexit done and the WA is ratified by 31st Jan, Brexit will have been "done" and Average Joe Bloggs will go back to worrying about which of his favourite soccer player is being transferred where. Johnson can (will) cave on the "no further extension" promise, and will (probably) cave on the issues of alignment and divergence, and the UK will be a sort of Switzerland, fully independent and sovereign and near-perfectly aligned with the EU. Average Joe won't care because he can still get cheap flights to Benidorm; soft Leavers won't care because Brexit has been "done"; soft Remainers won't care because they got a BRINO-Brexit; Farage will be delighted because he can continue to rant about Britain being sold out by the Tories and still shackled by the EU; and hard-core Remainers will grudgingly accept the new status quo because at least it wasn't as bad as it could have been.
Sam Russell wrote: » I think that will be the attitude of nearly all, 'It is not as bad as it could have been'. But conversely, 'It is not as good as it was!' They are heading into a lose, lose, lose situation.
Leroy42 wrote: » I don't really blame Labour, or indeed the lib-dems for the stanch they are taking. To stand down heir own candidates in particular seats goes against everything on which the UK politics is based. The Lib-Dems fully believe they can win massive gains and thus out them in a position to have a massive say in a future government. Labour believe they will win a majority. Just like the Tories never contemplated a deal with TBP, but lucky for the Farage folded and they now have the right all to themselves (IMO Farage will, even if they put up candidates in the Non 317, won't attack Johnson or the deal or the Tories and as such much of the reason to vote BP will simply fade away). The parties still haven't grasped that this really is a cross party issue. TM never got it, Johnson certainly doesn't, so it is no wonder that the others haven't either. Whilst they may agree to a pact for this election, Lib-Dems know that heloing Labour get elected will result in Corbyn carrying out his nationalisation wishes. I they do not want that. It is too big an issue for them to get over.
Tories soar into 14-point poll lead after Nigel Farage declares election 'amnesty' - but Brexit Party leader defies pleas from allies for more concessions saying he WILL field candidates in Labour marginals New YouGov survey puts the Tories on 42 per cent and Labour on 28 per cent Poll was conducted after Nigel Farage said he was standing aside in Tory seats
[Deleted User] wrote: » It's now abundantly clear that the UK is solidly behind a Government of Brexit. No revocation; no second referendum - just a get on with Brexit vote. I suspect the chasm between the Tory's and Labour will grow once the absurdity of Labour's position becomes clearer in the minds of voters. Great days for pro-Brexit supporters!
Joe_ Public wrote: » Of course its a great day if they latch onto the poll putting them 14 points ahead and completely ignore the one (survation i think) only putting them 6 ahead. Sure who knows which one is right. Maybe neither of them.
[Deleted User] wrote: » By and large though, polls show a consistent lead of 7-10 points for the Tory's. This 14-point lead comes on the back of Farage's decision; so it's not unreasonable to think it approximates to the true value.
Joe_ Public wrote: » That poll may just reflect increased tory support in areas where BP is standing down. It doesnt help them in their target labour seats without which they wont win a majority. So predictions that these figures are suggesting massive tory majorities are really just silly. Basically right back in 2017 territory again.
[Deleted User] wrote: » Isn't this just a case where, when the Tory's poll well, the excuses are "we can't trust polls" and that "it's not what it seems", but when Labour suddenly climb in the polls, it's "the Tory's should watch out" and "Labour are doing well"? I've noticed this trend in the past. Poll legitimacy is questioned depending on whether the results favour the reader's politics. If Labour were at 42 in any poll, with the Tory's on 28, I think we'd see a very different reaction.
correct horse battery staple wrote: » In your previous posts you have made it clear that you support Boris despite admitting that he is a blatant liar You also have no issues with "democracy" being subvented by foreign money and illegal methods. You claim one thing above but then have a posting history here of doing the exact opposite of supporting democracy.
[Deleted User] wrote: » I believe almost all politicians are blatant liars, or are, at the very least, very economical with the truth. I have "no issues with democracy being subvented by foreign money and illegal methods" according to what evidence? Otherwise, you may need to retract.
Dytalus wrote: » Regarding the illegal methods. As for the foreign money and interference, the UK Government is withholding the report into that so we cannot see what's in it until after the election. But there's some indications that their social media campaigns had an effect.
Deleted User wrote: » That's not what you claimed. You claimed that I have "no issues with democracy being subvented by foreign money and illegal methods". Where is your evidence for this claim?
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