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Cork developments

snotboogie

I noticed that the Limerick equivalent is a very popular thread over on their forum so I thought I might get one going here. To kick things off I'll list the bigger current projects I can think of:

Under Construction

Navigation Square: Four building office development on the former Navigation House site on Albert Quay. 310,000 sq ft of office space for up to 3000 employees. First phase to be completed Feb 19'

89-90 South Mall: 50,000 sq ft office, 5 storey office building.To be completed in December 18'

Dalata Hotel South Mall: Six storey hotel, 165 beds. To be completed in December 18'

Various Student Accommodation: Western Road and Beamish site are under construction, Crows Nest has planning and should start soon, Square Deal is facing appeals, Coca-Cola site on the Carrigrohane Road has had planning for over a year but nothing has happened? O’Riordans Joinery, Gillen House on Farranlea Road, Model Farm Road/Melbourne Road and Copely Street are all at various stages of planning and/or limbo.

Planning/Appealed

Horgan's Quay: Office Space for 5,000 employees, 200 apartments, 136 bed hotel and 3000 sq metres of restaurants and retail. Got planning permission in March but it was appealed by Port of Cork. Uncertain when the final decision will be. Construction on the Hotel will hopefully begin in Q4 this year with the office and apartments commencing in 2019.

Sullivan's Quay: 6 storey Office & 193 bed 4 star Hotel. Planning granted and immediately appealed. Given that demolition is nearly complete I'd expect this to go into construction as soon as planning is granted. Potential hold up over the height of the hotel, at 12 storeys and 47 metres, it is set to make the top 20 tallest buildings in the state if completed. An Taisce not happy.

Former Victoria Hotel: Knocking much of the Victoria and rebuilding to the back and refurbishing the original historic front/facade and to integrate the two sections into a new high order retail unit, of 25,000 sq ft, over four floors. Rumoured to be taken over by Zara. Planning granted in Feb, nothing happened on site since.

Metropole Redevelopment: €50m redevelopment of the Metropole Hotel to include a new five-storey boutique hotel on Patrick's Quay. Planning granted with amendments in March. No date for work to start.

Wilton Shopping Centre: €100 million revamp proposed. Mistake made in planning permission. In the process of resubmitting.

In Limbo

Event Centre: 6000 all seater multi purpose event centre with a tourist brewery experience. Arguably the most controversial construction project in the history of the city. After a bleak 6 months at the back end of 2017 there have been two instances of positive murmurs from the Government and BAM in January 2018 and April 2018. Construction allegedly to start in Q4 2018 but there are still conflicting and contradictory statements from all parties involved. Most would be shocked to see this start in 2018.

Anderson Quay/Camden Quay/Trinity Quarter: All have had planning for years with no work on site. Camden Quay allegedly had some work going on last week but I'd be shocked if it was related to the actual construction. I can't see any of these sites being developed as per their current proposals.

Concept/Pre Planning

Docklands Tower: 40 storey mixed use tower with the redevelopment of the existing customs house warehouses into cultural, tourist and retail space. By a mile the most ambitious development in Ireland. Announced over one year ago and no sign of a planning permission application yet, allegedly waiting for the Docklands development plan this summer to rezone heights for the site. If we don't see a planning application by the end of the year I'd be worried.

Ford Distribution Depot: Put on sale last week. Former site of the extremely ambitious Atlantic Quarter. Major development opportunity

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Outkast_IRE

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

So does this mean that the apartments will not be available for purchase to individuals? Is this done for financing reasons?

There is massive profit with rents so high. They will be able to shift this in no time to the likes of green REIT or similar .

Mefistofelino

hans aus dtschl wrote: »

That drawing set is cool thanks.
Boring looking design IMO, but I wouldn't be against it.

Check out the basement plans, particularly the -2 level. The congestion of the bike racks is spectacular- no way some of those bikes are coming out unless you're lowered in from the ceiling like Tom Cruise.

namloc1980

Mefistofelino wrote: »

Check out the basement plans, particularly the -2 level. The congestion of the bike racks is spectacular- no way some of those bikes are coming out unless you're lowered in from the ceiling like Tom Cruise.

Looks fairly standard. In one of the work buildings I go to in Dublin they have that sort of thing and it works fine. Plenty of space. What it does show is that 200+ bike spaces take up less space than a handful of car spaces!

snotboogie

Another get permission and flip it scheme for the proposed hotel on South Mall

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/boutique-hotel-opportuity-on-cork-s-south-mall-guiding-at-4-5m-1.4071873

hans aus dtschl

Mefistofelino wrote: »

Check out the basement plans, particularly the -2 level. The congestion of the bike racks is spectacular- no way some of those bikes are coming out unless you're lowered in from the ceiling like Tom Cruise.

Just looking at it there. If that's the design, most of those racks would be unusable. Maybe they'll figure out a better way of doing it, though, like a vertical loading system or something.

hans aus dtschl

namloc1980 wrote: »

Looks fairly standard. In one of the work buildings I go to in Dublin they have that sort of thing and it works fine. Plenty of space. What it does show is that 200+ bike spaces take up less space than a handful of car spaces!

I think it's the fact that you have to snake through the racks with the bike that is odd, and the fact that the gap between racks looks smaller than a bike!

fonecrusher1

Mefistofelino wrote: »

Some of the renderings are a bit fanciful though. They've vaporised the entire docklands (and assumed nothing would be rebuilt) and partially dissolved One Albert Quay

Not seeing anything fanciful or anything to cause me any concern at all.

Looks good to me. In fact the building is quite a conservative design. I can see this getting pushed through alright. Its hardly mental looking with the Elysian very nearby too.

opus

namloc1980 wrote: »

Again, if there was a strong business case then there'd already be one here or advanced plans for one. IKEA have repeatedly said they have no plans for another store in Ireland and are concentrating on their Dublin store and online order and delivery service to cover the whole country:

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Ikea-shelves-its-Cork-plan-0381e26b-ddc7-4695-b979-3f44b1d7a3fa-ds

https://www.corkbeo.ie/culture/whats-on-news/ikea-respond-cork-store-question-16834725

And just to confirm!.

Ikea focus online with no more store plans

SleetAndSnow

Taken from r/ireland . All corks proposals in one image.

fonecrusher1

Ah for god sake the big one is almost blocking the R&H hall!!! :mad::mad::mad: That's a listed concrete silo!

Looks amazing btw.

chalkitdown1

The port of cork tower is blocking a particularly beautiful piece of the sky that I used to be able to see. What a disgrace. I'll be objecting for sure.

Markcheese

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Ah for god sake the big one is almost blocking the R&H hall!!! :mad::mad::mad: That's a listed concrete silo!

Looks amazing btw.

The silo... I mean it's okay, it's definitely imposing, but definitely not listed...

Shedite27

Is it just 4 new buildings in that picture?

snotboogie

Looks like the York Street Hotel is set to start late this year/very early next year:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/super-budget-plan-for-windsor-inn-site-as-sml-hotel-chain-starts-small-in-cork-z8p7r7vrv

With this going ahead, the new brewery opening next door and link to the new bridge nearly ready it should be a major lift for an already booming MacCurtain Street

Justin Credible Darts

has any dublin artist with an attention complex complained about this yet ?

Chris_5339762

Yes, there was a last minute objection from someone.

Can't find the article now though.

chalkitdown1

Ummmm...

https://twitter.com/CorkEventCentre/status/1192929215462739969?s=19

This can't be the actual last minute appeal, can it?

fonecrusher1

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Yes, there was a last minute objection from someone.

Can't find the article now though.

Same eejit that was whinging about the Port of Cork tower to get some of his paintings sold?

TheChizler

I was worried they might have been trying to get people to take them seriously, based on the above I think it's not much to worry about...

nyck04

chalkitdown1 wrote: »

Ummmm...

https://twitter.com/CorkEventCentre/status/1192929215462739969?s=19

This can't be the actual last minute appeal, can it?

I presume the complainant is ready to fund the Long Boat replica.

snotboogie

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/proposed-ucc-dental-school-and-innovation-hub-set-to-benefit-patients-and-local-industry-962563.html

billy the squid

What is to be the carraig centre on old fort road ballincollig..

SleetAndSnow

Was on the way home on the bus and saw a big planning permission sign( I think it was anyway, had the council logos on it) outside Sandown crest in togher. Searched it up and just saw this published by the echo yesterday. Looks interesting?

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Plans-for-Togher-Road-enhancement-go-on-public-display-59cae414-c6d1-46bc-ab50-33a87c0cad2f-ds

opus

Good to see some rennovations happening on Shandon St (full disclosure I live close by so have a vested interest!).

[Deleted User]

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Was on the way home on the bus and saw a big planning permission sign( I think it was anyway, had the council logos on it) outside Sandown crest in togher. Searched it up and just saw this published by the echo yesterday. Looks interesting?

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Plans-for-Togher-Road-enhancement-go-on-public-display-59cae414-c6d1-46bc-ab50-33a87c0cad2f-ds

The road from the togher cross roundabout to the deanrock is wide enough to do something decent. Cannot make head nor tail of the that artists impression. Looks like something a 1st class pupil would enter to the credit union competition

Burty330

The bridge off the link coming into Togher has always been badly congested , but now traffic is starting to build up on the slip road from the Wilton side.
Bad area for traffic congestion around there

Flesh Gorden

Deleted User wrote: »

Cannot make head nor tail of the that artists impression. Looks like something a 1st class pupil would enter to the credit union competition

They traced it from the Google Maps rendering further down the article.

Pretty sure that's an automatic disqualification from the credit union competition, grand for city council though.

AugustusMinimus

Burty330 wrote: »

The bridge off the link coming into Togher has always been badly congested , but now traffic is starting to build up on the slip road from the Wilton side.
Bad area for traffic congestion around there

The only slip road off the link goes into Turner Cross. Unsure of which one your on about.

Pablo Escobar

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

The only slip road off the link goes into Turner Cross. Unsure of which one your on about.

The usual case of calling the South Ring (N40), "the link" or "the South Link", as opposed to the actual South Link (N27). Red FM used to do it a number of years ago too while giving traffic reports (mid-2000's).

snotboogie

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Cork-Street-is-to-shut-for-a-year-while-a-new-hotel-is-built-b054d024-8a0d-4a37-a893-02b248ed8140-ds#.XcxRsX9QfT4.twitter

York St Hotel construction to start on Monday