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Storm Lorenzo Chat Thread.

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The suggestion was made earlier in the 'Lorenzo' thread to open up a separate thread for general discussion on this potential storm. I think this is a good idea as that thread is now incorporating both technical discussion and more banterish posts, which is making it harder to follow.

It is probably best if we keep the original thread where more technical discussions & charts etc can take place to allow people to have a quicker access to the latest thoughts on the storm, and keep this one for more general chit chat and reports etc.

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Weltsmertz

Widdershins wrote: »

It makes sense to ignore media coverage after this farce but If still follow met eireann's forecasts and warnings-which were proportionate and accurate. It seems like people barely differentiate between the hype on news stations and what met Eireann actually said.

Met Eireann issued "warnings". Many people are confused and differentiate between different colours. If they wanted to avoid scare mongering there is an easy enough solution. Get rid of warnings for normal weather.

is_that_so

Weltsmertz wrote: »

Met Eireann issued "warnings". Many people are confused and differentiate between different colours. If they wanted to avoid scare mongering there is an easy enough solution. Get rid of warnings for normal weather.

Which suggests that the warnings themselves do not clearly communicate what they are intended for. I think they need to fine-tune them, especially the lowest one.

Weltsmertz

is_that_so wrote: »

Which suggests that the warnings themselves do not clearly communicate what they are intended for. I think they need to fine-tune them, especially the lowest one.

How about. *There's a chance there might be a bit of rain" instead of WARNING WARNING YELLOW ALERT

is_that_so

Weltsmertz wrote: »

How about. *There's a chance there might be a bit of rain" instead of WARNING WARNING YELLOW ALERT

Yeah, it's the fact that the actual forecast gets completely lost in the warning.

Storm 10

Met Eireann should have made sure they stopped calling it an ex hurricane that's where the media jumped in, they should have called it storm Lorenzo from the start and insisted that RTE etc used this, George Lee went to town on the word hurricane with waves as big as a three story house heading for the West coast going to destroy the coast and storm force winds bringing down trees and power lines with flooding etc ,he frightened the life out of people who had no idea about the storm and he should have been taken to task over his wild comments. Also Met Eireann should have kept updating the website they put up the Amber warnings and the forecast at 12.19 on the Thursday was never touched all day long, they should have been updating this all day when they knew what was going on and coming on the 9pm news and extending the warnings until 6am with wind gusts of 130kph gave people the impression they were in for one hell of a night when at that time people on here were saying it was losing its intensity.

jackboy

George lee showed himself to be a trash journalist who makes entertainment a priority over truthful reporting. He should not be let report on the weather again. Rte have plenty good meteorologists who could do those segments.

Cork Boy 53

jackboy wrote: »

George lee showed himself to be a trash journalist who makes entertainment a priority over truthful reporting. He should not be let report on the weather again. Rte have plenty good meteorologists who could do those segments.

You do know that Met Eireann meteorologists are not RTE employees?

jackboy

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

You do know that Met Eireann meteorologists are not RTE employees?

Well they do the weather forecasts for rte. They could either do the quick pieces on the news (instead of the ones that George lee butchers) or the weather forecast could be longer, including a bit of discussion.

At the moment the drama of the hyped up rte reports completely overshadows the weather forecasts.

fin12

Fairly windy here tonight in Kerry, didn’t see or hear any warnings.

Kristopherus

fin12 wrote: »

Fairly windy here tonight in Kerry, didn’t see or hear any warnings.

Here you go. From the met.ie website "Southerly winds will reach gale force early tonight on Irish coastal waters from Valentia to Slyne Head to Malin Head, and from Malin Head to Howth Head to Carnsore Point and for the Irish Sea tomorrow morning."

NIMAN

Kristopherus wrote: »

Here you go. From the met.ie website "Southerly winds will reach gale force early tonight on Irish coastal waters from Valentia to Slyne Head to Malin Head, and from Malin Head to Howth Head to Carnsore Point and for the Irish Sea tomorrow morning."

So surely deserving of a yellow warning at least, no?

realdanbreen

Just wondering, what's the point in being a windsurfer if everyone has a go at you when you go surfing in the wind!

fin12

Kristopherus wrote: »

Here you go. From the met.ie website "Southerly winds will reach gale force early tonight on Irish coastal waters from Valentia to Slyne Head to Malin Head, and from Malin Head to Howth Head to Carnsore Point and for the Irish Sea tomorrow morning."

Thanks I didn’t get a wink of sleep last night.

nacho libre

The point about weather forecasters now being reluctant to use their own intuition in the current namby pampy state we are in is a good one. The reality is the public will soon become dismissive of warnings if we have people like George Flee( sorry Lee) warning of the day after tomorrow everytime we get a bit of wind.

realdanbreen

Maybe they should have George just reading out the deaths or something, he has the voice and tone for it.

KildareP

realdanbreen wrote: »

Just wondering, what's the point in being a windsurfer if everyone has a go at you when you go surfing in the wind!

For the same reason as if a qualified driving instructor decides to go for a spin in snow drifts up the Sally Gap :P

Weltsmertz

There hasn't been a weather warning now for nearly two weeks. Very unusual. Has Met Eireann reconsidered the alarmist scare tactics it uses in light of the damage to it's reputation and standing after Storm Lorenzo?

FishOnABike

Weltsmertz wrote: »

There hasn't been a weather warning now for nearly two weeks. Very unusual. Has Met Eireann reconsidered the alarmist scare tactics it uses in light of the damage to it's reputation and standing after Storm Lorenzo?

Yellow warning for rain from this evening 18:00 Sunday into tomorrow 23:59 Monday

Weltsmertz

FishOnABike wrote: »

Yellow warning for rain from this evening 18:00 Sunday into tomorrow 23:59 Monday

So there is. I spoke too soon. Although I note some media outlets are calling it an "alert" rather than a warning.
And the merchants of doom are back out on the weather forum. Had a feeling it wouldn't last

NATIONAL WARNINGS
Status: Yellow
Rainfall warning for Munster, Connacht, Carlow, Kildare, Kilkenny, Laois, Longford, Wexford, Wicklow, Offaly and Westmeath

Jimmy Garlic

I remember a time when British farmers used to use met eireann forecasts, it was considered a professional outfit. Not so anymore.

Kamili

Met Éireann blames media for 'over-sensationalising' Storm Lorenzo after receiving complaints

https://www.thejournal.ie/met-eireann-storm-lorenzo-complaints-4887235-Nov2019/

I see George Lee was sent to Donegal on the RTÉ news tonight to sensationalise the weather again too.

Leonidas BL

Jaysus there was far more pots and stuff blown around last night than in Lorenzo and no forking warning at all

Hooter23

They did a programme on RTE about storm Lorenzo I think it was a comedy:rolleyes:

spookwoman

Met should look inhouse before blaming others for hype, the previous storms were OTT by their own and there are 2 that come to mind when hype is mentioned.

Hooter23

They are at it again on Rte right now will ireland survive by 2050... :pac: hopefully rte and their s***e wont;)

Leonidas BL

Ya know its all well and good taking the piss out of them for over-hyping the weather warnings, but when all is said and done, if someone was killed they'd be chastised for not issuing a higher warning. Too many people around with nothing to do but moan about little first world problems!!!

Hooter23

Im trying to understand this programme on RTE right now "will ireland surive 2050"...now according to them climate change is a great thing for ireland and ireland will be such a good place to live in 2050 that "climate refugees" from everywhere around the world will all be coming to live in ireland for the great weather:pac:

Hooter23

Oh now they are showing a map of ireland under water by 2050:rolleyes: rte documentaries sure are ridiculious they say one thing then contradict themselves 10 mintues later...We can look forward to "Hot Air" documentary tomorrow...Another disaster no doubt..Ah jaysus

washman3

Another 'storm' on the way this weekend.
Will there be another Prime-Time special and a live show on the morning after to report on the devastation it caused.?

Weltsmertz

washman3 wrote: »

Another 'storm' on the way this weekend.
Will there be another Prime-Time special and a live show on the morning after to report on the devastation it caused.?

Warnings and storms are still coming thick and fast. But I think Lorenzo did make a difference. People less inclined to be scared by them. Although I may be mistaken.

News this evening
Batten down the hatches. There is a storm approaching. Orange warning.

But still bread is the suparket so people taking less notice of the scaremongering.