Gonzo wrote: » Many of the wisps are decent companies trying to offer a solution to those who have nothing, however the service many of them provide fall way below what is acceptable today. This causes them to have poor reviews and generally not many recommendations. This can't stay like this forever. If the NBP goes for a fully fiber solution then the wisps can start offering their service on this future proofed and reliable network. Looks at Airwire, they started off as a wisp only service. They now offer their service through Siro and OpenEir and it would be very difficult to find a negative post about them here on boards because they have future proofed their business and provide a genuine great service to those who can get it. Hopefully many more rural areas can avail of services like theirs over the next few years if the NBP goes the correct way. There is nothing really preventing other wisp business from doing the same. There is really only one very large wireless operator in this country that do pull off some serious cowboy practices and tricks who I have absolutely no time for.
allanpkr wrote: » good to hear another wisp apart from westnet, that has good reviews i hope to hear about more,i hope so anyhow.
heavydawson wrote: » I've been with Nova for a couple of years. Very happy with them. Service can slow down, but rarely to single digit Mbps
allanpkr wrote: » ok 3 so far westnet.......airwire.........nova come on guys let us know of wisps , that give service it advertises, good service when it goes off air. must be more ...but be honest. im sure there are more out there. just a small point westnet was not contesting nbp , accepts fibre is future.
Gonzo wrote: » If Wisps were to get part of the NBP contract then the past 8 years have been for nothing and some rural areas will be left behind forever. Fibre is the only way. It's the only technology that works. It's the only technology that is future proofed. I've rarely seen a positive post from a Wisp customer here in the past 10 years. There are too many problems distance from mast, interference, line of sight, contention the list goes on. They promise a Ferrari but at the end of the day many end up with a bicycle. I'm not against Wisp business's but they can adapt like Airwire and a few others and start offering FTTH services to keep their business relevant and future proofed. The sooner we can get rid of wireless services, dongles and satellite broadband the better.
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » It's not about them getting part of the contract. It's about killing the project. The fact is that if the NBP goes ahead the vast majority of WISPs are likely to go out of business over time. It's all well and good saying they can adapt but how can small local businesses compete with eir, Vodafone, Virgin, Sky etc.
Johnboy1951 wrote: » If they pay the same access charges as the larger companies then yes of course they can compete.
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » They can try. Why do you think they are protesting? Here is the reality from a guy who runs a WISP in Wexford. He also appeared before the Communications Committee.
celticbhoy27 wrote: » Let's not derail the thread. Keep it nbp related
Johnboy1951 wrote: » I am unsure of the point you are making ..... if other ISPs pay the same access charges then there is a level playing field for the provision of fibre services.
allanpkr wrote: » it is nbp related, the good wisps adapt and now offer fibre the bad run wisps dont adapt just expect customers to put up with shoddy service. so a list of good wisps will allow people to see what wisps they can use when ftth comes.
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » Except your so-called "good" WISPs are also protesting and want premises removed from the NBP.
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » Yes, there is a level playing field for fibre provision but the larger providers have larger marketing budgets, they can employ door to door sales staff, they have bundles with mobile and TV. All this means that smaller providers will gradually be squeezed out of the market. 85% of connections on the open eir rural FTTH network are eir retail. The quote from the Business Post article is telling: "One operator said they would not be forced out of business by the plan and would fight to have premises they serve removed from the NBP." I'm not sure how this is hard to grasp.
allanpkr wrote: » well explain then, are you saying the smaller fibre suppliers, should be given preferential treatment, or should fibre broadband be open to any supplier?
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » Work it out for yourself. You're in the process of destroying the thread with your constant gibberish.
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » Yes, there is a level playing field for fibre provision but the larger providers have larger marketing budgets, they can employ door to door sales staff, they have bundles with mobile and TV. All this means that smaller providers will gradually be squeezed out of the market. 85% of connections on the open eir rural FTTH network are eir retail.
The quote from the Business Post article is telling: "One operator said they would not be forced out of business by the plan and would fight to have premises they serve removed from the NBP." I'm not sure how this is hard to grasp.
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » eir got the majority of initial connections because they aggressively sold it door to door.
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » eir got the majority of initial connections because they aggressively sold it door to door. I've given the opinion of a WISP saying they will have no margin and customer loyalty goes out the window when the big boys come knocking. The very fact that a lot of them are now protesting shows this to be the case. I'm not defending them by the way. I'm just highlighting their position.
Emmanuel Lemon Louse wrote: » Confirmation that RISPA are behind the 137000 premises claim and that they are considering a possible legal challenge. Richard Bruton is denying any delays and that the plan will be brought before cabinet “some time before the end of the year”.https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/bruton-denies-national-broadband-delay-1.4079759
Orebro wrote: » If the WISPs maintain they can supply broadband just as good as the NBP can, then shouldn’t they be able to carry on regardless?
Marlow wrote: » Erhh .. they have .. Have you ever looked at the coverage for Net1, BBnet or Airwire on their Jet products ? That's been build in the last 2 years or so and is offerings of 50 Mbit/s and more. /M
recyclebin wrote: » That's how technology works. Did anyone shed a tear for the film makers when the digital camera came along. Technology goes obsolete and businesses close. It's part of life. You either move with the times or die. You shouldn't try block progress for your own financial gains which is what Wisps are doing.
Ultimanemo wrote: » I know Airwire, their map shows my house is in their coverage for wireless up to 20 Mbps, when they came they said signal is so poor so they couldn't install, same for Lightnet came and failed, but my home still marked as very well covered on the maps of both.
