downthemiddle wrote: » We had our visit from the course raters today. For the rating they take into consideration the length of the hole, width of fairway at the likely landing area, positioning of bunkers, length and extent of rough, number of hazards etc. They also tested the quality and speed of the greens ( and were very complimentary about how true the greens were). All the readings are subject to computer analysis, the aim being to achieve an objective rather than subjective rating. Ratings will not be released until all courses have been surveyed, probably in the summer of 2020. They are not providing courses with estimated ratings.
prawnsambo wrote: » Thanks. That answers the DIY question. But the published ones seem to align pretty well with when the GUI started doing them.
Mantis Toboggan wrote: » I'd imagine the ratings will be controversial.
brick tamland wrote: » I wonder what will turn out to be the Irish courses with the highest and lowest index’s? Enniscrone will be right up there you’d think. European club may take some beating. Struggling to pick out a lowest.
spacecoyote wrote: » Just in terms of the above, is score = gross/net strokes? And what is the course rating, is that the SSS/CSS?
prawnsambo wrote: » 113 is the base level multiplier for handicap calculation. The formula is: ((score - course rating) * 113) / slope rating = handicap differential. So listing it at 113 means no handicap differential. In other words, they ether don't have a rating yet, or the site doesn't know it.
martinkop wrote: » Enniscrone have had a slope rating for years for the US market. Wasn't on cards but was in locker room, definitely back in 2011.
Seve OB wrote: » The clubs may have done it themselves in the past but every club course will be rated now by the gui branches
mike12 wrote: » Played Enniscrone during the week and on their card. Blue tees 133 White tees 131 Yellow tees 123 Green tees 111. You will find all the links have it done for years as they cater for the American market and they want to adjust their handicaps for the day. It will be interesting I'm guessing I would be getting a shot or 2 playing Blue or White.
blue note wrote: » I found a website with a heap of slope ratings on it. Virtually all courses from all tees were rated 113. Tramore, corballis, elm green, new forest, k club Ryder cup course from the professional tees........ all 113. Portmarnock links and one other (I can't remember which) were rated higher. Me thinks we'll just have to wait for it to be done properly before we can trawl through it and call it nonsense.
HighLine wrote: » Not at all. My course doesn't and apparently most Leinster courses have not have it done yet either. I would imagine the new handicap system will be delayed coming in. They are giving November 2020 as the date for introduction... most places will be non-qualifying then anyway so maybe spring 2021.
prawnsambo wrote: » They were looking for course raters early last year. Applications closed in March 2018 and they had five teams up and running at that time and were filling vacancies. It was specifically stated that they would be doing slope ratings. Hard to believe they've done nothing since then.
spacecoyote wrote: » Pretty sure that all courses have had it done at this stage in advance of the changes. May not be anywhere documented on your scorecard, etc...but I'm sure if you ask in the clubhouse they'll be able to tell you
mjsc1970 wrote: » Have all courses had their slope rating done already? I've no idea of the slope rating of my own course. Since when had Tramore or Portmarnock had their slope ratings calculated?
blue note wrote: » That's interesting. Thinking of tramore the are a lot of holes where there's danger from the tee for someone like myself (relatively young) whereas the key members won't reach them. And age probably mirrors handicap quite closely.