donvito99 wrote: » They really have no shame. "Demanding" that the Gov stump up the billions required to build them a Metro in priority to anyone else in the City because they are better than Bus Connects. The reality is that as soon as the Gov rolls out the South West Metro, who's going to be front and centre in their opposition to the plan to build huge station boxes and, in the process, CPO houses, playing pitches, parking spaces... Look at GADRA (representative of Rathgar, Terenure, Rathmines etc) which now says that Metros and people using them are bad for our health after it was said that the air quality on the London Underground isn't ideal... Cllr Deirdre Conroy et al are professionals at ensuring that there is never a change from the status quo. They are professionals at saying that a Metro can be delivered in the same way that Bus Connects can and getting huge tracts of supportive column inches.
salmocab wrote: » Grange golf club is inside the walls of Marley demesne it would never happen. There’s lots of golf clubs because there’s lots of people that play golf.
Idbatterim wrote: » https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/residents-combine-to-demand-metro-extension-to-firhouse-38742119.html Just read this. Some interesting figures ... Route it via grange golf club and build thousands of apartments on it. They should cpo the land at its current non residential value. Enough other golf clubs in the area !!!
dublinman1990 wrote: » Upon seeing the RTÉ 6.1 News this evening. A lot of the constituents in the Dublin Fingal constituency are talking about the Metrolink being delayed in Swords until 2027.
Shedite27 wrote: » I saw some structure and what looked like drilling on Hume Street today. Had Metrolink logo on the side of it. Anyone know what they're up to?
Last Stop wrote: » I agree with the suggestion to create a new thread because the above is an extremely debatable point
Sam Russell wrote: » although it is obvious, it does make sense to extend it.
loyatemu wrote: » we're talking about extending the Metro to Donabate to meet the rail line there, I'd have said that's relevant to this thread more than the Dart thread.
Sam Russell wrote: » Mod: Can we restrict discussion as per the title - Swords to Charlemont. The extension to Donabate belongs in the Dart Expansion thread. Thank you.
MJohnston wrote: » As per the April 2019 announcement, it'll be 2020 sometime.
bennyineire wrote: » So any word on when a railway order will be lodged ?
ncounties wrote: » I'm just going to ask what everyone's thinking. What does R+L mean?
Last Stop wrote: » The original post suggested going the full distance to the northern line. What you’re talking about now is completely different.
Last Stop wrote: » I would be against cherrywood and Luas to Bray if there was acres of undeveloped land closer to the city. Swords had plenty of development space for example as does Ballymun.
Last Stop wrote: » Most metro systems are designed for 80km. Why would you go against industry standards?
Last Stop wrote: » Between R+L and Donabate, a DART could easily do 100km
Last Stop wrote: » Why would it be a horrible waste of money. No houses but a heavy rail connection to the airport meaning you could run trains from anywhere in the country offering far greater connectivity!!! That would be a great investment.
bk wrote: » And Bray is 19km, lots of people commuting from there and Greystones (26km) for decades now. Commuter towns serviced by Metro's out to about 20km would be quiet common in similar sized European cities. I agree we should be focused on closer to the city to start with, which is why I'm happy with the current Metrolink plans and for it to develop further in future when needs be. And plenty of people on the much less comfortable Luas now for 30 minutes!
No one is saying that! What I'm saying is build multiple stations north of Swords towards R+L and build new high high density town centers around the stations. Do it gradually. Start out by going just 1km North of Swords, plenty of green fields there and build a new station and apartment buildings there. You are just 15km from Dublin now or the same distance as Cherrywood is to Dublin. Are you against building Cherrywood? Then why would this be any different? Once this is filled up build another station at 16km out and then 17km, out, etc. 16 to 19km out would cover the same distance as the proposed Luas extension to Bray and the new developments that would be built along this line. Are you against the idea of the Luas being extended to Bray?!
I think people take for granted that the area of South Dublin out as far as Bray will be developed and filled in. But North Dublin (and West Dublin too) is the same distance out and has even greater opportunities for development. Folks need to stop just looking South.
Nothing stopping a Metro from being specced at 100km. Though if you think DART goes at 100km or even 80km, then LOL I've a bridge to sell you!
Well that would be a horrible waste of money. Spending 300m going North would open up the space for 10's of thousands of new homes. A line to Clongriffin gains you very little as it is under the Dublin Airport approach path so you can't build homes there. Connecting Metrolink to the Northern line would make more sense as it gives you a similar connectivity, while also opening up lots of land for development.