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Nest Hello Doorbell Install

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I’ve been through 3 ring pro doorbells and gave up on them altogether and have been waiting for Nests launch. Unfortunately I wired the house specifically for ring with no chime, just the transformer in fuse box directly to front door.

Now the hello install details are out they ludicrously seem to require a hardwired chime to get an actual doorbell ring. I.e no plugin or wireless chime like the ring system.

Their install details actually say you need the chime to get it to function at all, but I’m guessing this is an error.

There is talk that google home mini can announce who is at the door, but unclear if it will also just chime when someone rings the bell.

Anyone got one on order or given it a go as yet?

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Fingers Mcginty

Oops ...apoligies for the huge pics

Fingers Mcginty

Obviously the xformer would have to be changed to 24V but otherwise it should work? I don't have a chime ...just a handset in the sitting room.

54and56

Fingers Mcginty wrote: »

Obviously the xformer would have to be changed to 24V but otherwise it should work? I don't have a chime ...just a handset in the sitting room.

You'll need a 24v transformer and a chime/bell but it looks like the wiring is already in place (providing your happy to put a bell where the handset is or extend the wiring to a more suitable location.

T-b0n3

I have a Nest Hello and very happy with it.

One question though: When someone rings the doorbell, is there anyway to tell if someone has already answered it?

There has been situations where the post man rings, and both my OH and I answer, he can hear both of us, but we can't hear each other so we don't realise, and the poor post man gets awful confused.

54and56

T-b0n3 wrote: »

I have a Nest Hello and very happy with it.

One question though: When someone rings the doorbell, is there anyway to tell if someone has already answered it?

There has been situations where the post man rings, and both my OH and I answer, he can hear both of us, but we can't hear each other so we don't realise, and the poor post man gets awful confused.

That's a good question, might be something that they build into future versions of the app i.e. if one person responds to the doorbell none of the other connected apps can.

I'd also like to see them implement an option to have your own canned messages similar to how you can send "I'll call you back" type pre-drafted messages if you reject a call on your phone. I can see the potential problems with such a system though

"Feck off, I don't want to switch my electricity supplier"

"See that big sign on the door saying "No Junk Mail", the crap in your hand is junk mail, don't even think about putting it through the letter box"

"No, I don't want my soul to be saved by jesus, I sold my soul to the devil years ago and would much rather go to hell where all my friends will be than heaven where all my rosary saying aunties will be."

Zane97

Seasonal Halloween tone... only available in the US they (Google Nest) are saying.

https://support.google.com/googlenest/answer/9231819#doorbell_theme

Stoner

Unfortunately it does seem to be US only.

They invented Halloween you see!!

Tom Cruises Left Nut

Hi All

Considering going to get one of these today

Can you tell me is the attached transformer ok ?

Thanks !

slayerking

Tom Cruises Left Nut wrote: »

Hi All

Considering going to get one of these today

Can you tell me is the attached transformer ok ?

Thanks !

That transformer looks good, however its not possible to tell which volt it is currently wired for. That transformer supports 8v, 12v and 24v so it will work, but you might need to re-wire so its running at 24v.

Tom Cruises Left Nut

slayerking wrote: »

That transformer looks good, however its not possible to tell which volt it is currently wired for. That transformer supports 8v, 12v and 24v so it will work, but you might need to re-wire so its running at 24v.

Is it easy enough to rewire ? I am presuming just putting a wire into a different terminal ?

54and56

Tom Cruises Left Nut wrote: »

Is it easy enough to rewire ? I am presuming just putting a wire into a different terminal ?

Yes you're correct it's literally a 30 second job, like wiring a plug BUT messing around with your fuse box and live electricity is not to be taken lightly.

If you don't have much DIY experience, particularly in relation to electricity, you need to proceed very cautiously or preferably get someone qualified to do it for you.

Tom Cruises Left Nut

54and56 wrote: »

Yes you're correct it's literally a 30 second job, like wiring a plug BUT messing around with your fuse box and live electricity is not to be taken lightly.

If you don't have much DIY experience, particularly in relation to electricity, you need to proceed very cautiously or preferably get someone qualified to do it for you.

Grand, sure I will connect it up and if its too low a voltage I will get a pro in

54and56

Tom Cruises Left Nut wrote: »

Grand, sure I will connect it up and if its too low a voltage I will get a pro in

My concern isn't that you'll incorrectly wire the transformer, as long as you can read you'l get that part right, my concern is that if you aren't experienced in electrical DIY you may be taking a lot more risk than you appreciate and should get a pro in despite the fact it's only a 30 second job!!

Tom Cruises Left Nut

54and56 wrote: »

My concern isn't that you'll incorrectly wire the transformer, as long as you can read you'l get that part right, my concern is that if you aren't experienced in electrical DIY you may be taking a lot more risk than you appreciate and should get a pro in despite the fact it's only a 30 second job!!

I get you, I mean I will connect the doorbell and if it says the voltage is too low ill call someone

Not gonna take any risk at the fuse box !

slayerking

If you do decide to try rewire it, just make sure you trip the relevant circuit so its not live, and if in doubt trip the entire fusebox while you do it (you might need a flash light!). And even then, have a phase tester to cross check its not live as a sanity check, they are cheap as chips. Point being, just be extremely careful when dealing with anything to do with mains electricity!

In any case, it's a straight forward job alright.

Tom Cruises Left Nut

Shouldn't have worried, all worked with no issues !

wingnut32

I was thinking of picking one of these up but I'm not too sure about installing it. Are there any companies that would do the installation in the Dublin area?

micks_address

wingnut32 wrote: »

I was thinking of picking one of these up but I'm not too sure about installing it. Are there any companies that would do the installation in the Dublin area?

An electrician should be able to do it for you. Rates vary. I was charged 60 euro but all wiring was existing and chime was there. I supplied transformer for circuit board...I knew the guy well though so I'd say 90 euro more reasonable price and then more depending on your existing bell setup

BobbyT28

54and56 wrote: »

Ring Pro discounted to £139 in the Amazon Black Friday sale.

Any sign of the Nest Hello getting a similar discount from Google? I've my fingers crossed as I want to buy one soon!!

Picked it up today along with Google home hub.

Luckily I have a 8v-24v transformer already in my fuse box for bell. So just a matter of wiring it up

Jesh1

Hi all,
Looking to install nest hello current set up is as follows in the attached image. Will my transformer suffice? Also anyone talk me through the installation. Not sure of it's clear in the photo. There is connection labelled 0,1,2,3
Most tutorials online are two connection chimes.

54and56

Jesh1 wrote: »

Hi all,
Looking to install nest hello current set up is as follows in the attached image. Will my transformer suffice? Also anyone talk me through the installation. Not sure of it's clear in the photo. There is connection labelled 0,1,2,3
Most tutorials online are two connection chimes.

Transformer looks fine provided it's wired for 24v not 8v.

Can't help with the other challenge, waaaay beyond my DIY pay grade!!

nialldinho

Hi

I just got my Nest Hello from google store.

What can I expect an electrician to charge to install it? I have a wired chime but probably need a new transformer.

Thanks

54and56

nialldinho wrote: »

Hi

I just got my Nest Hello from google store.

What can I expect an electrician to charge to install it? I have a wired chime but probably need a new transformer.

Thanks

Assuming its straightforward it'll likely take less than an hour providing you have advised the electrician in advance that you may need a new transformer.

Depending on where you live etc it could cost anywhere from €60 if you find a friendly local electrician to €90 + a call out charge (travel time isn't free) plus the cost of the transformer which wholesale is circa €15 IIRC.

Micks_address put it well - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111747145&postcount=469

The only other issue you may have to deal with is ensuring a strong WiFi signal at the Nest location. My signal was weak at the front door resulting in drop outs initially but I installed a range extender nearby and that solved the problem. Since them I've had 99% uptime with the odd drop out for a few minutes if there was a WiFi issue in the house generally or for some other unknown reason but it always comes back online itself fairly quickly.

nialldinho

54and56 wrote: »

Assuming its straightforward it'll likely take less than an hour providing you have advised the electrician in advance that you may need a new transformer.

Depending on where you live etc it could cost anywhere from €60 if you find a friendly local electrician to €90 + a call out charge (travel time isn't free) plus the cost of the transformer which wholesale is circa €15 IIRC.

Micks_address put it well - https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111747145&postcount=469

The only other issue you may have to deal with is ensuring a strong WiFi signal at the Nest location. My signal was weak at the front door resulting in drop outs initially but I installed a range extender nearby and that solved the problem. Since them I've had 99% uptime with the odd drop out for a few minutes if there was a WiFi issue in the house generally or for some other unknown reason but it always comes back online itself fairly quickly.

Thanks very much for the detail.

nialldinho

I’m about to order the 24V transformer from amazon. However it seems most chimes here and UK are only 16V. Is this ok to use with a 24V transformer? I’m assuming that’s what everyone is doing but just wanted to make sure!

Thanks

micks_address

nialldinho wrote: »

I’m about to order the 24V transformer from amazon. However it seems most chimes here and UK are only 16V. Is this ok to use with a 24V transformer? I’m assuming that’s what everyone is doing but just wanted to make sure!

Thanks

Yeah my chine is 16v and no issues

keith_d99

Doorbell themes added to App today ... Christmas/New Year/Winter

54and56

keith_d99 wrote: »

Doorbell themes added to App today ... Christmas/New Year/Winter

Just got that alert in the Nest app. Are they any good? How are you supposed to choose in the app if you can't hear the chime other than I guess selecting it and then ringing the doorbell. IMHO the app should work like choosing a ring tone for your phone, when you select one from the list the phone plays a sample.

BobbyT28

Add the nest yesterday, added the Christmas chime. Picked up the nest hub also and very imprsssed at how quick the feed comes up.on it and the notifications appear, compared to the delay of 20sexs of the bilnk XT2 (still love the blink though).

Only problem is the wall beside my door frame is too much in the camera fame, so affecting night vision (glare) and also restricting view on the right. So gonna drill hole from at an angle from front wall to the door bell at the frame and bring the bell wire through the front making it a neater job. Or I could move the bell over to the right side of the door and completely bypass chime and just wire directly from transformer.

Any do this? I take it the bell just needs the power to it and wife and will notify us through the 4 Google homes we have plotted around the house instead of using the chime.

Can you at night time choose what Google home the chime comes on, i.e we have Google homes in the kids rooms and I wouldn't want to have them going off at night if door bell is rang, I would prefer to have that happen during the day u til 7pm and then after that if the bell is rang that the home hub in living room/kitchen will chime.

Was hoping that there was some sort of IFTTT or hue integration so that if the bell is rang the lights in the living room flash or something like that.

BobbyT28

BobbyT28

Have nest door connect now 24hrs. Still haven't received 30day nest aware trial. Anyone experience this?