sharper wrote: » The government response to electric cars in bus lanes though should have been "Absolutely not, what a ridiculous idea" and given the silly season antics we see with transport planning I can easily see them having actually done it so they could brag about green credentials and moving us all into the future and such. Again, who cares about transport elections need winning and governments love positive international press.
Sam Russell wrote: » Mod: Can we leave the politics to the politics forum. Party politics has no place on this thread. Post deleted.
machaseh wrote: » Electric cars have no place in bus lanes. Taxis should also be banned from bus lanes, in order to make taxis much less attractive compared to public transport. For example if I go to the airport I can take a bus (16,41,747) or a taxi, while I try to take the bus when I can using a taxi is often very tempting as it's just so much quicker than the bus, it zooming past all the traffic on the bus lane and all plus not stopping on the way. (747 also doesnt stop on the way but takes a detour for me). If anything, allow taxis (and any cars for all I care) only after bus services have stopped, so between midnight and 5 AM only. Banning diesel/petrol cars from the city center is a whole different discussion which is not entirely relevant to this thread. What I'd say is that parking should be limited much more rather than traffic itself. If you cant park, you wont drive into the city center. If a company really wants their employees to park they should fund a parking garage themselves on their own property.
machaseh wrote: » Electric cars have no place in bus lanes. Taxis should also be banned from bus lanes, in order to make taxis much less attractive compared to public transport. For example if I go to the airport I can take a bus (16,41,747) or a taxi, while I try to take the bus when I can using a taxi is often very tempting as it's just so much quicker than the bus, it zooming past all the traffic on the bus lane and all plus not stopping on the way. (747 also doesnt stop on the way but takes a detour for me). If anything, allow taxis (and any cars for all I care) only after bus services have stopped, so between midnight and 5 AM only.
Stark wrote: » They do need to sort out that 747 route as well though, the detours through Thomas Street, Dame Street, Cathal Brugha street and Talbot street are a joke. I did enjoy this Twitter thread from a bus driver on Monday morning https://twitter.com/BallyfermotDave/status/1191306123049091072 All the bus lane upgrades will be for nothing if they don't sort out the enforcement of bus lanes issue.
Stark wrote: » All the bus lane upgrades will be for nothing if they don't sort out the enforcement of bus lanes issue.
JohnC. wrote: » Oh great. No enforcement then.
Seth Brundle wrote: » Doubtful that Shane has the capability to make that decision. I reckon the senior mandarins told him what to say.
Last Stop wrote: » More than likely it’s based on legal advice. The guards are the only organisation allowed to enforce road traffic offences. Using the cameras on buses would open a whole can of worms. The only solution now is fixed cameras at black spots like the Luas red light cameras. This is probably unlikely too given the legitimate arguments for being in a bus lane (for access and in emergencies), meaning it would be more hassle than it’s worth from a Garda resource point of view.
Chiparus wrote: » Cameras on buses are used as evidence in criminal cases - assaults and the like.
Last Stop wrote: » More than likely it’s based on legal advice. The guards are the only organisation allowed to enforce road traffic offences. Using the cameras on buses would open a whole can of worms.
sharper wrote: » What we're talking about here though is amending the law. If the government is telling us the law is so messed up they can't figure out how to amend it to achieve the outcome they want then we have far far bigger problems than bus lanes. The key difference can easily be if you get tagged by a camera you get issued a fine as a civil offence and not a criminal one or with penalty points attached. All we need is for people to know there's a real cost in using the bus lanes as right now you'd almost be stupid not to use them.
Last Stop wrote: » If you don’t attach penalty points, then you bring the whole system into disrepute. The whole point of penalty points is to deter serial offenders.
