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Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

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This thread is to discuss all things Shannon Airport related.

Warning, any back biting, regional nonsense, trolling, baiting or back seat modding will lead to bans.

It's also important to remember than that this thread is in a regional forum, not the Aviation forum, if you want to get into details on Aviation, go to that forum. Finally, this is the Clare forum, there will be a bias towards Clare in here, so expect folk to want to defend their county .

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kilburn

Brennans Row wrote:

It seems to be operating from Shannon under the flight number

Beautiful plane was on one of the demo flights very quiet cabin.

Tiernster7

I saw on twitter that Shannon will have 25 destinations next year, how does this compare with the best years and if there is room for growth where is it.

My guess is the frequency could be improved on some existing services
An additional route or 2 to the UK possibly

After that I'm unsure, maybe getting Ryanair to introduce a couple more low frequency destinations that aren't serviced in Knock or Cork

highlydebased

One wonders if LH have actually finalised their S20 schedule...

Brennans Row

'I love being close to the metal': A flight in the Profit Hunter with Embraer's John Slattery (Fora)

The Clare native showcases the Brazilian firm’s new jet, reflecting on European aviation and sustainable flying.

It seems to be operating from Shannon under the flight number ZZZPRZIQ in the coming days.

Tiernster7

Understood, I confused LH with Heathrow, at least they are holding onto carrier.

Not sure if it was mentioned but it looks like direct flights to Toronto are scheduled to resume in May.

Cookiemunster

Tiernster7 wrote: »

Sorry what does this mean?

Lufthansa to Frankfurt is down to one day a week.

Shn99

Tiernster7 wrote: »

Sorry what does this mean?

Operating 1x weekly on Saturdays. Down from 2X weekly this summer (Thurs and Sat)

Tiernster7

Shn99 wrote: »

FRA with LH down to just the Saturday rotation for next summer

Sorry what does this mean?

Shn99

FRA with LH down to just the Saturday rotation for next summer

lisasimpson

Paris should be a success. A lot of onward connections from CGD. Airporr needs another hub connection apart from London after Brexit. Also many American do multi stop breaks when holidaying in Europe. Flew to Naples from Dublin last summer and over half the flight was Americans after spending a couple of days here

Tiernster7

I'll be delighted to see it work. Shannon would provide a quicker turnaround service and that would obviously be great. As Aer Lingus allude to an additional US Route isn't impossible if the strategy works.

Shn99

BCN-BOS/JFK are bookable on the EI website via SNN however the returns are not as impossible to connect in time. Still potential for connections with that route if pax willing to return via DUB

Balf

The services wouldn't be initiated unless someone did the math, and found good potential.

Will there be a crossover into US services? I'd say it's a case of suck it and see. Doesn't matter much, so long as the new services get used.

LXFlyer

Tiernster7 wrote: »

I've never seen statistics which suggest to me that French or Spanish traffic is diverting through Dublin when going to the USA.

If you have something like this I would be happy to change my mind

I don’t have specific statistics by country but 1.7m people used Dublin as a transatlantic hub in 2018.

I just wouldn’t dismiss it as a possibility before it even starts.

I’d suggest that Aer Lingus, by using their new A321LR aircraft with business class seats on key morning European flights that connect with transatlantic services from Shannon to Heathrow & v.v. and Dublin to Heathrow and Paris & v.v., don’t necessarily agree with you.

highlydebased

Back when EI Regional flew to Manchester - I took an early morning flight. Well over 20 pax on the flight had come off the transatlantics

Tiernster7

I've never seen statistics which suggest to me that French or Spanish traffic is diverting through Dublin when going to the USA.

If you have something like this I would be happy to change my mind

easypazz

LXFlyer wrote: »

Well then why are people using Dublin as a hub in reasonable numbers from continental airports that already have direct connections?

I think you’re underplaying the possibilities.

Less congestion at pre-clearance in Shannon should be be a plus.

Are there many using it that way though? I'd have thought links to European airports with limited or no connections to NYC / BOS would be better?

As regards pre clearance its a nice selling point but I've been through security on the far side as fast as my bags come through, so its not an automatic saving.

I guess at periods of high demand as all direct flights are booked out, or close to booked out, people will be more inclined to go via secondary airports as prices will be competitive and departure and arrival times become less attractive.

LXFlyer

Tiernster7 wrote: »

This is great news and will improve connectivity from Shannon as it will reduce the price of some onward destinations , while also giving Shannon a suitable level of European coverage. I really hope these routes are successful.

Don't really buy the Paris to New York argument to be honest , but lets see how it goes. The only way to possibly take advantage of this is a route from much further east where a change of flight is required anyway.

Well then why are people using Dublin as a hub in reasonable numbers from continental airports that already have direct connections?

I think you’re underplaying the possibilities.

Less congestion at pre-clearance in Shannon should be be a plus.

Tiernster7

This is great news and will improve connectivity from Shannon as it will reduce the price of some onward destinations , while also giving Shannon a suitable level of European coverage. I really hope these routes are successful.

Don't really buy the Paris to New York argument to be honest , but lets see how it goes. The only way to possibly take advantage of this is a route from much further east where a change of flight is required anyway.

ongarboy

LXFlyer wrote: »

Then why would anyone use similar flights through global hubs when direct options exist as is the case all over the world?

In general, price, price, price!!

In the case of Shannon, pre-clearance will be a big selling point.

Oddly enough when I use skyscanner to search flights, the direct flights are often cheaper than the ones that require connections.

I'd say unless the savings are €100 or more, it wouldn't be worth the hassle of adding the extra time to your journey.

Great news for SNN though to have our flag carrier link up to these 2 alpha cities, particularly CDG for the hub connections!

lisasimpson

Decent times and days perfect for a weekend away

LXFlyer

easypazz wrote: »

If you can fly CDG JFK direct surely an indirect flight is of little interest, preclearance or not?

Then why would anyone use similar flights through global hubs when direct options exist as is the case all over the world?

In general, price, price, price!!

In the case of Shannon, pre-clearance will be a big selling point.

easypazz

If you can fly CDG JFK direct surely an indirect flight is of little interest, preclearance or not?

LXFlyer

easypazz wrote: »

Preclear in Shannon?

Yes

easypazz

highlydebased wrote: »

Connecting flights from BOS/JFK to CDG available with just 1hr stop in SNN on the return which seems attractive.

Preclear in Shannon?

highlydebased

SNN 0700 CDG 0945 EI908

CDG 1035 SNN 1125 EI909

Sun/Mon/Wed/Fri

Sat/Tue/Thurs

SNN 0600 BCN 0920 EI928

BCN 1000 SNN 1135 EI929

Connecting flights from BOS/JFK to CDG available with just 1hr stop in SNN on the return which seems attractive.

Jamie2k9

CDG full season Apr-Oct, BCN May-Sep.

Shn99

EI TATL Changes for S20
SNN-BOS EI135 moved to 13:30 departure.
SNN-JFK EI111 moved to 12:50 departure. Also operates daily instead of 6 weekly.

Times moved to facilitate connections with new routes.

Shn99

Shannon wants to become a Transatlantic transfer hub - Simple Flying
http://dlvr.it/RHfvwm

Jamie2k9

snotboogie wrote: »

That article seems to suggest that the AL flight to Paris will be codesharing, with I assume AF?

Not a hope of an AF link. The connections will be a marketing line for the airport to use but in reality meaningless.