sydthebeat wrote: » who are sander, omahney ? did i argue that we were doing this ??? no i didnt read the posts which counter your ones... you might learn something
The Lost Sheep wrote: » no chance. Irfu would never sign him or play him. Wouldnt be worth all the hassle it would bring.
Hands Like Flippers wrote: » Pity.
Faugheen wrote: » He made his bed.
realhorrorshow wrote: » Wales do consistently well without particularly impressive athletes, they just made a RWC semi with pretty much no ball carriers in the pack.
connachta wrote: » And lost it because of that (by few, but lost)
realhorrorshow wrote: » Wales won the grand slam and then lost by 3 points to the World Champions in the semi while they were missing loads of players through injury. They did all this with players far less athletic than ours. The notion that filling our team with physical freaks is the key to success is silly.
sydthebeat wrote: » Hooper and pocock are as far from center type atheletes as you could imagine??? Peter SDT, world player of the year, is a bullocking 120kg 6' 6" monster who plays at seven. Michael Hooper is 20kg lighter and a whole 6" smaller I think you've got some things confused in your head.
Jump_In_Jack wrote: » Just to correct this misunderstanding, PSDT wears no.7 but as is the custom in South Africa he plays blind side. So you must compare him to No. 6 on every other team.
sydthebeat wrote: » the whole argument of the person im arguing with is that they do not differentiate between the different positions and the core skill sets to play that position... so the comparison of very much valid, and actually is the whole point of my dissection of their argument.
Cork29 wrote: » Can you tell me a 6 6 120kg athlete we have currently for the backrow?
Cork29 wrote: » We always look down on Welsh players, but look at there CVs to ours on international terms. When the chips are down they usually beat us when we expect to win
realhorrorshow wrote: » Are you not undercutting your own point? You’re saying wales usually beat us but they don’t have any 6’6 120kg athletes either.
sydthebeat wrote: » tadhg beirne is 6' 6" and 114 kg. can you tell me a 6' 6" 120 kg backrower that plays for ANY other tier 1 team than South Africa?
Podge_irl wrote: » Is there a 6'6" 120kg centre floating around that I'm unaware of?
mogwai81 wrote: » 1. Eric O’Sullivan 2. Ronan Kelleher 3. Tadhg Furlong 4. Ryan Baird 5. James Ryan 6. Dan Leavy 7. Josh van der Flier 8. Jack Conan 9. Craig Casey 10. Joey Carbery 11. Aaron Sexton 12. Stuart McCloskey 13. Gary Ringrose 14. Jordan Larmour 15. Jacob Stockdale
The Lost Sheep wrote: » cant see any side being that dominated by leinster forwards. Would see wycherly, scannell pushing as well as some Ulster guys.
mogwai81 wrote: » Fair comment. I did notice that the forward pack was nearly entirely from Leinster. The likes of Henderson and Scannell could easily be first choice. I would love to see a ball carrying 6 come along between now and the next World Cup.
salmocab wrote: » That backrow has a more than reasonable chance of not being even the Leinster backrow in 4 years time.
Squidgy Black wrote: » Have you seen McCloskey clear a ruck that isn't just another back or jackal against an opposition backrow? Or take on a carry from the base of a ruck? Or pack down in a scrum? Lift in a lineout? They're all fundamental skills that a backrow needs and are something that some players will just pick up in a handful of training sessions. For the players safety too, you can't just slap them into those kind of positions open to clear outs without the correct body position or else they'll be folded, the amount of serious injuries that occur to top level backrows like Leavy, Warburton etc who have played there for years. On top of that, Ulster have no requirement for McCloskey to play 6, why would they agree to it?
JJJackal wrote: » I think there are a selection of positions that lend to changing between: 1, 2, 3 4,5,6,7,8 9,10,12,15 11,12,13,14,15 Not sure you can easily swap between prop and out half for example or indeed scrum half and any position in the forwards
