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Should long-term dole recipients be required to sign on daily at Garda station ?

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Lone Stone

idiot

Dozyart

Batty Boy wrote: »

Should long-term dole recipients be required to sign on daily at Garda station ?

1/10,and the 1 is only for spelling!

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Batty Boy wrote: »

Should long-term dole recipients be required to sign on daily at Garda station ?

EDIT - just seen post count, never mind...

punisher5112

At a Garda station no but nothing wrong with them having to go to a welfare office.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

Should manatees have the right to self-euthanise?

Sharp MZ700

Who? The Garda or the civilian?

[Deleted User]

ILoveYourVibes

Are they pedos?

IMO even the only criminals who should be forced to sign on in the garda station are genuine convicted sex offenders. The rest should be left alone.

ILoveYourVibes

I mean is Epstein and Prince Andrew had been forced to sign in a garda station the world would be a better place.

Idbatterim

Yeah they should. Robbing the taxpayer blind! Legalized theft though. It’s not like loads of other areas here could do with the funding. Blow it on world class welfare. Free houses. Medical card. Free travel etc!

Quantum Erasure

but the Garda station is the whole other end of the town to the Post Office, where I collect my dole...

[Deleted User]

I don't believe in humiliating or dehumanising people who've fallen on hard times. Anyone could find themselves with a fork in the sugar bowl following illness or other personal disaster, or economic downturn. Save the police for the criminals.

Idbatterim

Candie wrote: »

I don't believe in humiliating or dehumanising people who've fallen on hard times. Anyone could find themselves with a fork in the sugar bowl following illness or other personal disaster, or economic downturn. Save the police for the criminals.

Yeah and what about people sleeping on floors in a psychiatric facility last week ? Or people left on trolleys For days. Can’t lock up scum as not enough prison spaces. Many defense force personnel on a pittance. Pathetic infrastructure. It’s ok to starve these areas of funding , once the world class welfare state is maintained ?

mycro2013

None of the guards business. Surely there is enough civil servants as it is to correctly police the welfare system. Another level of bureaucracy is never the answer.

[Deleted User]

Yeah and what about people sleeping on floors in a psychiatric facility last week ? Or people left on trolleys For days.

Obviously I don't think starving health and mental health services of funds is wise or humane. Neither do I think punishing people who are struggling on welfare or disability is wise or humane. It's not a one-or-the-other issue.

kowloon

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I mean is Epstein and Prince Andrew had been forced to sign in a garda station the world would be a better place.

If Epstein signs into a Garda station the conspiracy theory forum is going to go mental.

Strumms

This IS the most stupid fûcking thread I’ve ever seen appear on boards.ie

Next you’ll have some other muppet suggesting that people with a lactose intolerance show up at their local fire station to tell them they can’t drink milk.

Mezzotint

Most people who are long term unemployed tend to not be so because they won't get work. They're there because they can't. A percentage of the population may have significant issues obtaining or keeping employment and there are all sorts of reasons for this ranging from geography, lack of appropriate skills, ageist recruiters ignoring applications from older job seekers (I've seen this quite a few times).

You've also a range of people who might not be technically disabled but they're unemployable or unable to hold down jobs due to minor mental health issues, learning disabilities (often undiagnosed), lack of very basic skills and so on.

You can either accept that a small % of society (and if is a small %) will always struggle to find work or, you can publish them for being poor, which seems to be where you're headed.

Be thankful that you're not in a position where you are depending on state supports, but trying to humiliate people who can't get work to somehow make them more employable makes no sense. What do you want to achieve? Starve people and drive up crime with people driven to stealing food like during the 19th century?

We do need better reskilling services and we also need to be creating a better range of jobs. We are headed towards an economy that's entirely focused on high skilled niches and the reality is not everyone fits it and an awful lot of jobs could vanish with increased automation.

Strumms

punisher5112 wrote: »

At a Garda station no but nothing wrong with them having to go to a welfare office.

I’d rather they were actually actively looking for work personally as opposed to burdening the staff at the welfare office. As well as not looking for work you’d have the requirement for more staff at the cost of millions to the state.

Pinch Flat

disappointed there’s no Atari Jaguar option in the poll.

ILoveYourVibes

Strumms wrote: »

This IS the most stupid fûcking thread I’ve ever seen appear on boards.ie

Next you’ll have some other muppet suggesting that people with a lactose intolerance show up at their local fire station to tell them they can’t drink milk.

They will be telling me I can't drive until the seizures stop!

[Deleted User]

For those voting 'Yes', what would the benefit be?

[Deleted User]

Deleted User wrote: »

For those voting 'Yes', what would the benefit be?

A feeling of immense superiority, I'd guess.

mydingaling2

Hell no bruv, There's a warrant out for me. I'm not getting arrested collecting me blooming dole!

Simi

It always amazes me that some people feel so cheated by someone recieving €200 a week in social welfare and not by people stealing thousands through tax avoidance, companies stealing millions through creative accounting, banks making millions gambling people's money and being completely unaccountable when they lose it!

Yeah the guy getting dole when he mighn't fully deserve it is the problem

mydingaling2

Simi wrote: »

It always amazes me that some people feel so cheated by someone recieving €200 a week in social welfare and not by people stealing thousands through tax avoidance, companies stealing millions through creative accounting, banks making millions gambling people's money and being completely unaccountable when they lose it!

Yeah the guy getting dole when he mighn't fully deserve it is the problem

It doesn't help but seriously needs to be addressed better. Does a single person living at home with Daddy and Mammy need 200 euro a week?

Should women be having children knowing that the main reason their doing it is to get a free house and extra benefits?

kowloon

Strumms wrote: »

Next you’ll have some other muppet suggesting that people with a lactose intolerance show up at their local fire station to tell them they can’t drink milk.

Informing the nearest sewage treatment facility might be more sensible.

Raconteuse

Idbatterim wrote: »

Yeah and what about people sleeping on floors in a psychiatric facility last week ? Or people left on trolleys For days. Can’t lock up scum as not enough prison spaces. Many defense force personnel on a pittance. Pathetic infrastructure. It’s ok to starve these areas of funding , once the world class welfare state is maintained ?

Yeah that's totally what she said.

kowloon

mydingaling2 wrote: »

It doesn't help but seriously needs to be addressed better. Does a single person living at home with Daddy and Mammy need 200 euro a week?

We could offer free euthanasia services for them. They'll avail of it in their masses once life is made miserable enough for them.

tuxy

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Are they pedos?

IMO even the only criminals who should be forced to sign on in the garda station are genuine convicted sex offenders. The rest should be left alone.

I don't see any issue with non sex offenders being required to sign in at a station as part of a bail agreement.