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Who is the greatest artist musical talent of all time

chandlerbing2

For me it would have to be Eminem, lyrical genius and unbelievable songs.

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bodhrandude

The Tuss

WomanSkirtFan8

For me its The Beatles without question.

BDI

James dean bradfield

Arghus

I don't think she's the greatest musical talent of all time, but a contemporary who I would rate up there with the greats of popular music would be Joanna Newsom. A lot of people can't get past her voice, which is fair enough, but her music frequently blows my mind. She's a multi instrumentalist who has carved her own path and her lyrics are dense and often profound imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSSaEz8XyCo

ILoveYourVibes

Verdi.

You can compose songs ...symphonies ...pieces for instrument ...but try doing it for all of those and voice ...and it has to convey a story and emotion ...it has to be something you can play out on stage. You need a sense of theater.

Strangely Verdi could only write an Opera that was any good after he had lost everything. He had tried to compose many before but they all failed. Then one year he lost his wife and children to influenza. He was about to kill himself. He took a book from a shelf. The bible came with it ..it feel open to Psalm 137

Part of it reads

We have drunk from the cup of affliction and have shed tears of bitter repentance, oh inspire us oh jehovah with courage so that we may endure to the last.

The prayer is known in English as 'By the rivers of babylon.' The aria is known as Va pensiero in Italian or the Hebrew slaves chorus in English or sometimes "Fly, thought, on golden wings''.

Psalm 137 is a hymn expressing the yearnings of the Jewish people during their Babylonian exile. In its whole form of nine verses, the psalm reflects the yearning for Jerusalem as well as hatred for the Holy City's enemies with sometimes violent imagery.

His next opera was Nabucco.

At his funeral ....the crowd (which was HUGE) spontaneously erupted into this.

Nabucco is a story about the assault and exile of the Jews from Babylon by a king called Nabucco. Verdi write very admirably and respectfully of the Hebrew slaves. Although the end doesn't work out well for them...history..

Verdi even wrote an Opera about forbidden love between a black african female slave (who once was a princess) and a white egyptian warrior. (this was the 1800s)

Its called Aida. This is eygpts 'triumphant march. '

He wrote an Opera that is sympathetic to a prostitute. La Traviata
It depicts the woman as kind brave and human. It depicts the men around her as cowards who refuse to help her socially for fear of their reputations. It depicts society as cruel and hypocritical. The prostitute is Violetta.

This is one of her Arias.

Il trovatore
The plot of il trovatore is more convoluted than game of thrones. Basically lots of people kill other people because they think they are someone else. Then everyone feels guilty and realizes they are dumb. But its too late because those people have kids who want vengeance. And everyone agrees gypsies got killed just for being gypsies and it was a terrible shame.

The anvil chorus ..It depicts gypsy men praising HARD WORK and gypsy women.
Its also known in Italian as Coro di Zingari or THE GYPSY CHORUS
They strike their anvils ...in hard work at sunrise ...long before most people are even awake .

You might be the most red pilled mother****er but you will hum to these many bitchin tunes you don't understand. Music is a powerful thing.

EVERYONE HUMS VERDI ....I bet you guys have even heard these ..NO ONE HUMS WAGNER ...HA HA HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaa

RikkFlair

Prince, because this....and the first comment on youtube underneath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y

ILoveYourVibes

Also bet you all know this!

OFFENBACH ...

Go on someone try and hum something from Tristan and Isolde !!

SUCK IT WAGNER !

ILoveYourVibes

Actually the one composer supposedly best at orchestration is Bizet.

ILoveYourVibes

RikkFlair wrote: »

Prince, because this....and the first comment on youtube underneath

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y

Love prince!

MrAbyss

Robert Smith

Tammy!

She's sweet on Wagner
I think she'd die for Beethoven
She loves the way Puccini lays down a tune
And Verdi's always creeping from her room...

Àlways thought Liam Gallagher and Charlotte Church could have done a fun version of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

kowloon

tayto lover wrote: »

Great lyrics to Dylan’s songs but I never rated him as a singer.

Some singer-songwriter types should just stick to the writing. Exhibit A: Leonard Cohen. I think songwriters don't get enough credit, hence the drive to be the performer too.

storker

ILoveYourVibes

joeguevara wrote: »

I think Sammy Davis was the best inthe rat
Pack.

also this reminds me of Purcell /Britten the fugue

If you ever played an instrument as a kid you had to study this!

Wagner is overrated ...musically poor ...and very repetitive ...the only reason he got funding was A ) Crown Prince Ludwig was gay secretly and had a MASSIVE crush on Wagner ..and erm ...Wagner despite not being gay ..was gay for pay if you know what i mean. The prince funded him from then on for whatever.

the nazis loved him.

His music sucks ..if you can play the the chord of E flat major you can play the prelude to Rhinegold.

She's sweet on Wagner
I think she'd die for Beethoven
She loves the way Puccini lays down a tune
And Verdi's always creeping from her room...

Normal people go to the opera and see Rossini and think oh that was good ..but its LIGHT opera ..hmm not as serious ...= not as good ...

NO NO THAT IS REALLY GOOD MUSIC TECHNICALLY ARTISTICALLY ETC

Normal people go to the opera and see Lohengrin and think ..my god that was boring ...i must not be highbrow enough for this opera stuff.

NO YOUR BRAIN IS SMART ...WAGNER SUCKS!

People only go to wagner to mix with toffs and weirdos. You have to pay lots to go to Bayreuth...its a status thing for wasps.

joeguevara

kowloon wrote: »

Some singer-songwriter types should just stick to the writing. Exhibit A: Leonard Cohen. I think songwriters don't get enough credit, hence the drive to be the performer too.

Leonard Cohens music was so personal to him it would be pointless if he didn't perform them. It wasn't about credit. It was him. Somebody else can perform them but their meaning would be lost. It's not all about sweet voice. Sometimes hearing the pain, love anger etc is the point.

The Byrds sang Dylan songs better but the grit and pain were missing.

joeguevara

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Wagner is overrated ...musically poor ...and very repetitive ...the only reason he got funding was A ) Crown Prince Ludwig was gay secretly and had a MASSIVE crush on Wagner ..and erm ...Wagner despite not being gay ..was gay for pay if you know what i mean. The prince funded him from then on for whatever. the nazis loved him.

His music sucks ..if you can play the the chord of E flat major you can play the prelude to Rhinegold.

Normal people go to the opera and see Rossini and think oh that was good ..but its LIGHT opera ..hmm not as serious ...= not as good ...

NO NO THAT IS REALLY GOOD MUSIC TECHNICALLY ARTISTICALLY ETC

Normal people go to the opera and see Lohengrin and think ..my god that was boring ...i must not be highbrow enough for this opera stuff.

NO YOUR BRAIN IS SMART ...WAGNER SUCKS!

People only go to wagner to mix with toffs and weirdos. You have to pay lots to go to Bayreuth...its a status thing for wasps.

Why quote my Sammy Davis only to diss Wagner?

biko

It's a toss-up between Beethoven and Mozart

Could there be a single adult person on this planet who hasn't heard of these and like some of their music?

NoviGlitzko

Marvin Gaye had the greatest voice of modern times, but musical talent in general? As people have already said probably Prince. He had it all.

ILoveYourVibes

joeguevara wrote: »

Why quote my Sammy Davis only to diss Wagner?

No but people say i post too much ..so i decided to multi quote ..NOW I AM GETTING GRIEF FOR CONDENSING!

joeguevara

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No but people say i post too much ..so i decided to multi quote ..NOW I AM GETTING GRIEF FOR CONDENSING!

Apoligies missed the Sammy video. Loved the Wagner post. Very interesting.

joeguevara

biko wrote: »

It's a toss-up between Beethoven and Mozart

Could there be a single adult person on this planet who hasn't heard of these and like some of their music?

Loved beethoven in Saturday night fever.

https://youtu.be/KSXC_lPWoyo

JupiterKid

Incredibly hard to pick just one - I mean we are talking the past 10,000 years since human civilisation began - but I imagine Mozart, Beethoven, Bach, Rachmaninov, Tsichovsky, Holst, the Beatles, Elvis, David Bowie and Elton John must feature in this list...

ILoveYourVibes

joeguevara wrote: »

Apoligies missed the Sammy video. Loved the Wagner post. Very interesting.

Yeah overrated musically ..horrible human being .woman beater ..racist ..anti semite ..sucked dick to his way to the top...

For a long time he blamed the success of Jewish composers for his lack of success despite the fact that Meyerbeer ( a successful jewish composer) had loaned him huge amounts of money and never asked for it back when Wagner was in Paris.

He wrote a lot of antisemitic and racist essays which he published in newspapers.

Not only did he use the Princes crush on him to get money. He then threatened to OUT him thus blackmailing him for money.

joeguevara

Well the world voted and the Wolfe Tones won.. Lol.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/elation-once-again-as-wolfe-tones-top-bbc-world-song-poll-26024989.html

ILoveYourVibes

joeguevara wrote: »

Well the world voted and the Wolfe Tones won.. Lol.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/elation-once-again-as-wolfe-tones-top-bbc-world-song-poll-26024989.html

BY A BBC POLL! :pac:

Sinister Kid

Ray Charles deserves a mention if he hasn't already gotten one

The Tetrarch

Glen Campbell

jiltloop

A genuine genius that's worth a mention is Richard D James aka Aphex Twin. This guy's skill and dexterity with electronic music is astounding.

He has broken new musical ground so many times and open up different genres and also inspired many other more commercially successful musicians and bands.

Incredibly his first album includes music that he made in his bedroom studio with DIY synths and equipment that he had adapted and built himself with self taught electronics knowledge, some of which at the tender age of 14.

Im not putting him up as a serious overall contender against the likes of Prince, the beatles, Miles Davies, or classical composers but he definitely deserves a mention.

pm.

ELVIS

Yamanoto

Quite a few mentioning Prince.

I get that he was an all rounder - performer, producer, multi- instrumentalist, but from the (admittedly) little I know of his back catalogue, I've never sensed the sort of musical development that's apparent over just a few short years with the likes of Brian Wilson or the Beatles.

Perhaps a Paisley Park afficianado can fill in the blanks a bit.