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ESB eCars pricing introduction

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System Upgrade

Dear EV Drivers,

To enable us to provide you with some enhanced functionality and a new app, we will be performing a system upgrade this coming Wednesday morning, October 2nd,

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Kramer

Super-hubs a comin'!

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Villain

I have an old ecars charging card but it doesn't have a number on it? Any got any ideas?

Stealthirl

Tried to do it but got

Error: 501
Message: This transaction (Order#) has already been processed! If you feel this is incorrect please contact the merchant!

innrain

Yes. You can see when the session started which is a big plus for FCPs

Mickeroo

Cheers, signed up without any issues there. New map looks good, big improvement on the previous one.

liamog

Mickeroo wrote: »

Do you have to sign up again from scratch or can you use your existing account?

You have to sign up again but can re use your existing card

Mickeroo

Do you have to sign up again from scratch or can you use your existing account?

liamog

https://myaccount.esbecars.com/signUp

Link incase you can't find it

Petetheroadie

Just signed up there and it worked for me.

innrain

Also on the footer of this page https://myaccount.esbecars.com/login I can see that they outsource the charging management to driivz

Interesting

BigAl81

innrain wrote:

When you click on a charger it shows you a bar chart of peak charging times. Interesting

That's really cool! Will be interesting to see how that changes when charging comes in for the Rapids!

innrain

Here is the new layout for the chargers map

https://myaccount.esbecars.com/findCharger?

When you click on a charger it shows you a bar chart of peak charging times. Interesting

Silent Running

Yeah, I won't be pressing F5 every few seconds. Let me know when the server has fallen over and has been reset.

zg3409

jarrieta wrote: »

Still cannot register... And nothing in the page indicating when it will open apart from "since 29th October'

Says 2pm today latest news

DesperateDan

unkel wrote: »

I clicked on the sign up button for the pay as you go option just a few seconds ago and got sent to an empty web page displaying this error:

"Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) Filter: CORS origin denied"

I really am expecting this to be a **** show for a couple of weeks at least

DrPhilG

Latest...

unkel

I clicked on the sign up button for the pay as you go option just a few seconds ago and got sent to an empty web page displaying this error:

"Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) Filter: CORS origin denied"

Gwen Cooper

irishgrover wrote: »

Right lads and Ladies, registration is open.
I honestly did not realise what a great deal this was. However I was on their site, going to sign up and saw this absolute gem of a savings...this has pushed me firmly back into the camp of an ESB fan.... why did did not put this in the press release I don't know!
When you sign up you get "Free ESB charge point access card worth €10"..... holy sh!t on a stick, becuse they love us so much there are not going to charge us €10 for a piece of plastic worth €0.50 ..... gob****es! Note however that they will charge an additional €10 it you want an additional piece of plastic worth €0.50c .

where are you seeing that? the website still takes me to the old registration form and it says that registrations open at 2pm today?

irishgrover

Right lads and Ladies, registration is open.
I honestly did not realise what a great deal this was. However I was on their site, going to sign up and saw this absolute gem of a savings...this has pushed me firmly back into the camp of an ESB fan.... why did did not put this in the press release I don't know!
When you sign up you get "Free ESB charge point access card worth €10"..... holy sh!t on a stick, becuse they love us so much there are not going to charge us €10 for a piece of plastic worth €0.50 ..... gob****es! Note however that they will charge an additional €10 it you want an additional piece of plastic worth €0.50c .

jarrieta

Still cannot register... And nothing in the page indicating when it will open apart from "since 29th October'

ewj1978

Eu funded no?

unkel

+1

Fastned and Ionity have paid for their charging networks themselves. In Ireland, the tax payer paid for the ESB charging network. If you think of it like that, the Irish system could well be illegal.

McGiver

Jeditraining1 wrote:

Lets face it the ESB are a disaster and at the end of the day their lazy over pricing will make the network untenable and possibly unsellable (CRU decision). It doesn't matter which way you look at it the charges per KW are hugely exorbitant it doesnt matter if you need the charger for only a few minutes or a few hours, a rip off is a rip off.

In fact, the prices are subsided. Fastened in the Netherlands charges â‚¬0.58, UK operators charge â‚¬0.45+.

I'd accuse them of dumping/undercutting rather than rip-off. Now, of course it will still be a rip-off if they don't provide proper maintenance and service, but that's a different thing.

drunkmonkey

What's with the Milton Keynes alloys on the BMW....does it identify as a VW?

Calahonda52

KCross wrote: »

They appear to have done just that for the new chargers on the M9
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111607712&postcount=11

Looks like 3 spaces for 2 chargers

KCross

Northumberland wrote: »

I am sure it would be more cost-effective to have two parking spaces for each fast charger, even if it can only charge one car at a time.

They appear to have done just that for the new chargers on the M9
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111607712&postcount=11

Northumberland

Yes, slow charging. Oh, I missed the reference to the overstay charge - I think that is good. But the present fast chargers (at least the ones that I have used) unlock the plug that plugs in to the car when the car is fully charged and the charger turns off. So another car owner could take out the plug and plug in to his or her car on to the same charger and start charging again IF they can get the car physically close enough. But that IF is a big IF, in their negotiations with the owners of the parking areas, Circle K, Blanchardstown, Dublin Airport etc, ESB acquire the absolute minimum amount of space to just allow one car, if that, to plug in to each available charging port, so it is rarely possible to get a second car close enough to use the charging plug which had become available. I am sure it would be more cost-effective to have two parking spaces for each fast charger, even if it can only charge one car at a time.

KCross

Northumberland wrote: »

So, they are going to make the subscriber pay per kWH of electricity used by the car, is that right? So, I pay the same if I stay 40 mins and take 20kWh or if I park for 10 hours and take the same 20kW blocking other users that want the fast charger and get free parking as well. ESB seem to deliberately place the fast chargers in places that nobody would want to stay for 10 hours, although I have found (confessions here) that it is often cheaper to park on a slightly out of town charger (usually slow) and take a FreeNow in to where I want to go, compared to charging, waiting, then driving in to city centre and paying the earth for charging. ESB sent around a questionnaire earlier this year asking if users thought there should be a penalty for 'overstaying', I responded that there should be (being based far from Dublin - the only fast chargers that I routinely use being close to Dublin or Navan. I guess they decided that an overstay charge was not practical - it is used in England.

Are you referring to slow AC charging there?

AC is going to be free for a while yet.
DC charging is per kWh and an overstay fee will be charged after 45mins... €5 apparently. Not sure how that will be administered if the car is not actively charging.

Northumberland

So, they are going to make the subscriber pay per kWH of electricity used by the car, is that right? So, I pay the same if I stay 40 mins and take 20kWh or if I park for 10 hours and take the same 20kW blocking other users that want the fast charger and get free parking as well. ESB seem to deliberately place the fast chargers in places that nobody would want to stay for 10 hours, although I have found (confessions here) that it is often cheaper to park on a slightly out of town charger (usually slow) and take a FreeNow in to where I want to go, compared to charging, waiting, then driving in to city centre and paying the earth for charging. ESB sent around a questionnaire earlier this year asking if users thought there should be a penalty for 'overstaying', I responded that there should be (being based far from Dublin - the only fast chargers that I routinely use being close to Dublin or Navan. I guess they decided that an overstay charge was not practical - it is used in England.

KCross

unkel wrote: »

In fact I wish they had doubled that rate plus a hefty per minute charge too.

I dont think I'd support a doubling of the charge but the per minute charge would be welcome as an incentive to get people to move off it as soon as they can (when the car starts throttling or they have enough to get home).

What also confuses me is ESB's monthly fee structure. It makes no sense really as there is very little difference in the kWh figure to incentivise you to go for the membership.

They should really have a much wider gap between membership and PAYG. If you only occasionally need the network then you pay a much higher fee and then for those who need the network regularly they pay the sub and get a much reduced fee. They practically made them the same. I dont get it. Maybe the plan is to get people used to the current fee structure and then bump the 33c figure and leave the 29c figure.