Cass wrote: » What makes me laugh (sarcastically) is there are notices being sent around by An Gardaí and the regional game clubs for gun owners to submit their renewals in a timely manner because due to incomplete renewals AGS staff are backlogged trying to contact the applicants for the remaining info. Here is why i laugh. Granted some people will forget to attach something, but in the cases of FCRs they were designed to be be idiot proof. You are meant to sign it, attach a photo and once nothing on the form has changed from your last license you send it back as is, otherwise you correct the info and still send it back. The problem is what is being asked for. Information outside the purview of the FCR or the renewal/re-application process, and to compound that weeks go by between when the forms are submitted to when they are acted on by AGS.
Fx Royale wrote: » So the “3 months” that they have to process the application does it start from the time they put it on pulse or from the time you submit it???
tikkamark wrote: » My missus applied for a o/u back in September and she’s not heard a peep back since.The system is a mess it’s almost laughable,I do feel for firearms dealers trying to make a living in this country!
meathstevie wrote: » Is that where you live now Mark or in your old district? They’re still on a weeks rather than months timescale.
Sika98k wrote: » Was that September 2018 or 2019 ? September 2019 I would not be unduly concerned. 2018....... I would already have been sitting on the doorstep of the Garda Station. A while back I was getting nowhere. In desperation I printed off all my mobile phone bills and highlighted the amount of times I had rung, unsuccessfully, the station trying to contact the firearms officer. 27 calls. A short letter enclosing my copied bills asking for something to be done or I would move it up a couple of paygrades to the Cig resulted in a grant letter in 4 days. However here I am now waiting 5 months for a renewal. Not a dicky bird, not an acknowledgement of my application being received. I feel that we are treated with a total lack of respect. Which I might add as I quite enjoy my “chats” with my FO. When I finally get to meet him, I bring the biscuits and we get on grand. The problem is it generally requires me writing a stroppy letter to someone who when we’re face to face are quite convivial to each other. But the system sucks. Back in the day when they overhauled the licensing system it was suggested that similarly to the U.K. and the North we had shotgun certificates and firearms certificates, aka SGC and FAC. great system, it works. It was knocked on the head by some Department of AGS. Lack of traceability was an issue. Bo****ks ! So with our current system every bit of information on an application has to be put onto Pulse and repeated for each and every firearm owned by an individual. What a waste of time and resources! A woman from Cork runs the firearms licensing unit in the PSNI. Pity she doesn't get a job down here. It’s not perfect but it’s a lot better than it was. One to ones done on line at a RFD’s premises. Like for like sales/purchases in designated caliber bands completed at the RFD’s, rim fires are one band, 22 centre fires are another,, etc etc. So maybe you guys would get your act together and stop treating us like secondhand citizens. Rant over.
ZiabR wrote: » @tikkamark Any word on your OH licence? Did the grant letter arrive yet? Are the main delays just with new applications or are parts of the country just really bad for waiting times? Where are the worse wait times? Wicklow, Dublin? I take it that ALL applications, whether they are New, Re-newels or Substitutions are all thrown into the same pile. They should be split. Preference should be Re-newels, as you risk hundreds of firearms around the country being held illegally. Second should be Subs, you already have a licence and are recorded on the systems. New applications should take a little longer but nothing crazy. Realistically Re-newels and Subs should be back within 14 days. New Apps should be back no latter than 4 weeks.
ZiabR wrote: » @tikkamark Any word on your OH licence? Did the grant letter arrive yet? Are the main delays just with new applications or are parts of the country just really bad for waiting times? Where are the worse wait times? Wicklow, Dublin?
Croohur1 wrote: » I am in South Wicklow and a family member put in their application in late September. 3 weeks later it was processed! I hear a civilian is now processing them for Wicklow HQ and things are flying.
tikkamark wrote: » I know well.....a mate of mine in a different district had his new side by side processed in 2 weeks. The big problem I find is that different stations have far too much control with nobody in power over there actions so if they feel like it they will leave an application happily sitting in a drawer as long as they feel like! If it was a private sector job and you decided you didn’t feel arsed doing it you would obviously get the boot fairly lively.
meathstevie wrote: » Not too sure about the private sector being much better. The biggest advocates of privatisation, the banks, had to be nationalised in all but name due to their superb competency.
Peppa Cig wrote: » Just double checking. So if you have 2 licences for say a .22 and both licences have say 500 ammo limit - you are entitled to be in possession of 1000 rounds total? Thanks
The pigeon man wrote: » I'm waiting over three months. Was hoping to do a bit of shooting over Christmas but it looks unlikely.
ZiabR wrote: » For a new Application or a Sub? What province? What kind of Firearm?
Sika98k wrote: » Received my grant letter. After submitting the paperwork 8 months ago. And the freaking licence is backdated to when the old one expired. Explain that ? Valid for 3 years ! Fat lot of good that is when 6 months have already passed with your firearm sitting in an RFD’s strong room. It’s finger trouble. Once I started making very vocal noises the wheels reluctantly started turning.
