billybonkers wrote: » They were not able to prove it was a timed system, but it sounds like it would have been loaded into the cars software and was automatically changing the bias based on which corner was coming up, be it by GPS, time etc.
recyclebin wrote: » Looks like a former a Renault employee was the whistle-blower.
AMKC wrote: » Sounds like it was a very clever system and effective too but you have to wonder which the drivers would prefer. Computers can be faulty or programmed wrong as they are made and programmed by humans.
Cork Trucker wrote: » I bet Williams wish they had all the computers on their car from 1993.
AMKC wrote: » Or even just Renaults new system. Ironically the Williams of that era was also powered by Renault so Renault could have had involvement in that too.
Cork Trucker wrote: » I don't know would Williams have any success with the current Renault system given how much of a dog their car is. Considering they have the best engine on the grid in terms of championships one must consider what could Adrian Newey do with the current Williams just like that bygone era? Wiliams-Renault Part 2 from 12-13 was more successful than the McLaren-Honda part 2 however.
uchimata83 wrote: » I was glad to hear Vettel blast the Heineken branding on everything this morning. It doesn't sit well with me, having an alcohol sponsor a race.
TCP/IP wrote: » They are advertising alcohol free beer.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Jesus the Chequered Flag podcast is gone to shyte. The 3 people on it are really rubbish and their banter is nauseating. The hosts are Jennie Gow, Jack Nicholls and Jolyon Palmer. Palmer comes across as a mix of massively bitter and humble bragging. The actual analysis could be condensed to 5 mins and the rest is just looking for a controversial angle. They often acknowledge the reality and then admit they’re just arguing for the sake of it. I can get that with my mates. I want the experts to give expert opinions, not guff. I love podcasts but the banter is really the main point of it now. It’s a real shame because podcasts used to be a bit niche and nerdy. Now they’re gone towards scripted skits and bull shyte
Joeseph Balls wrote: » I like OTM as a bit of light hearted fun but do you have a more serious one you would recommend?
flazio wrote: » I can't stand the host on Missed Apex. He's the worst for fishing for controversy that isn't there and deliberately trying to annoy his Co hosts I have laughed quite a bit at the "sponsors" of On the marbles, but the questions from Twitter can be a bit silly. Autosport is good if you just forget what Ed Straw looks like in real life. Chequered Flag podcast is OK for a preview of Palmers youtube video.
pburns wrote: » Have to say I'm a really big fan of OTM & I thought I'd hate the Jones guy. It's a bit saucy & weird but maybe reflects my sense of humour. Can't stand Mixed Apex. The host is horrendous especially the banter with Saward (who could be great in small doses like on Ted's Notebook but nauseating for an hour). I also hate all that puritanical PC language bull****. It's all very Middle England really & not in a good way....
BDI wrote: » Haha you have to admire their loophole jumping. As long as the logo is there, they are advertising brand Heineken against their rivals.
Inviere wrote: » It raises the question, can a company just make an offshoot product, something really cheap, and use their name for sporting advertising (where they previously couldn't?) Say Marlboro, if they made cheap watches alongside cigarettes, couldn't they then use the Marlboro logo on Ferrari and say it was there for watch sponsorship, ala Heineken with non-alcoholic beer?
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » The ruling on Mission Winnow recently would suggest that wouldn’t be ok for cigarettes. But it’s fine with alcohol ala Heineken alcohol free.
H3llR4iser wrote: » In a sport governed by the same organization that oversees the campaigns against drink driving on the road, go figure. There have been clever tricks attempted in the past - both Marlboro and Camel, at some point, tried to pretend their sponsorship was about their fashion brands rather than cigarettes, with little to no results. Also, little known / unexpected and slightly pointless fact of the season: since joining Red Bull, Albon has so far outscored Verstappen and not by a small margin: they're 58-39 so far.
mickdw wrote: » Hasn't been a great spell for max but Albon does appear to have the speed.
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Ah but this period started with max starting from the back of the grid with an engine change and he has crashed and gone to the back a couple of times too. Albon is no slouch but he’s not out scoring Max because he has greater raw speed. Max is well ahead in quali. Max isn’t a fair benchmark anyway. He’s probably the best driver with Hamilton and they’re quite a way ahead of everyone else
El_Duderino 09 wrote: » Ah but this period started with max starting from the back of the grid with an engine change and he has crashed and gone to the back a couple of times too. Albon is no slouch but he’s not out scoring Max because he has greater raw speed. Max is well ahead in quali.
H3llR4iser wrote: » Well, as it's been said more than once, the fact Verstappen is seemingly more often near trouble than most other drivers means he's not a completely innocent party, especially when it comes to first corner clashes. He collided with opponents three times in the last two races, plus a penalty due to his own mistake. As for the speed...I'm not that sure, to be honest; Most F1 drivers are within hundredths of a second of each other, bigger differences are the exception due to either clear skill gaps (e.g. pay drivers), experience (Raikkonen-Giovinazzi, with Antonio being much closer and even ahead as races go by) or the car/setup being more or less suitable to one driver or the other. Verstappen didn't exactly trounce Sainz at Toro Rosso - and was often behind Ricciardo at Red Bull. I do think the current Red Bull suits his style particularly well, making anybody who's step in the second car look like a slow coach - it'll be interesting to see if this changes next year with a new chassis. As I always say, if all current F1 drivers were given the same chassis and engine, the results in terms of raw speed would most likely be not what everyone would expect at all.
astrofluff wrote: » If you look at the head to head between Max and Albon since Alex joined the RB team, it's Alex that has been finishing better. Albon gets what he can done on the Saturday, but really puts his head down in the race keeping out of trouble, bringing the car home and getting the team solid points. I'd expect him to retain the seat for next year - he's definitely maturing quite quickly. Decent, honest driver.
mickdw wrote: » Being honest, I don't think RB expect Albon to as strong as he is. The seat is surely his. Gasley wasn't at the races at all.
