Last Stop wrote: » How can they overtake if the other lanes are full?
Sam Russell wrote: » They cannot, so they wait. This point can be addressed quite easily if buses are given priority and cars must give way to them. I see a lot of car drivers who force their way past buses indicating to pull out.
Last Stop wrote: » So if there is a line of traffic and a bus stop in the middle, the second bus indicates to pull out and the car lets him out, the second bus simply joins the queue of car traffic?
Sam Russell wrote: » This is taking silliness to a new low level. If the cars are stationary, then the 2nd bus waits in line. On the other hand, if the traffic is moving, the the 2nd bus indicates to pull out and the cars must give way. It is not rocket science, it is bus driving. Simples.
Last Stop wrote: » If there was no traffic, there wouldn’t be an issue.
MJohnston wrote: » Glad to see you've finally come around on the need to remove cars from our roads!
Last Stop wrote: » You can argue all you want about it being a chicken and egg situation but it isn’t.
MJohnston wrote: » I see your lack of interest or ability in reading posts hasn't changed, because I clearly said the idea that it's a chicken and the egg scenario is nonsense. There's only one workable approach, and that's to remove cars to increase public transport capacity, quality, frequency, and reliability. The only alternative is sticking your head in the sand or somewhere else.
Last Stop wrote: » And I could say likewise about you. I’ve just pointed out that Busconnects can’t even handle 50% modal share. It’s all well and good saying ban cars but where do all the car drivers go? I’ve asked you this plenty of times now and the best we’ve come up with is buy more buses. We now know that even with more buses, we’re not even going to meet half our target figures before we exceed CBC capacity!!
MJohnston wrote: » Buddy, you're basing all your calculations on CARS STILL BEING ON THE ROAD. What does QBC capacity look like when selfish arseholes aren't clogging them up like immovable turds in an old sewage pipe?
MJohnston wrote: » And we can't add capacity because there are cars clogging up the roads. Round and round we go on your idiotic merry go round. Give me any other solution that can be implemented within 2 years or less? Give me any other solution that can be implemented within FIVE years or less? The car bans need to start ASAP on the Quays, and then we can work outwards from there. We can't wait for BusConnects to start this either.
MJohnston wrote: » No answer to my question about other short term solutions? You're dodging like a politician.
MJohnston wrote: » What happens in 2 years to solve anything?
Last Stop wrote: » the bottom line is that Busconnects does not have the capacity to reduce the number of cars on the roads
SortCrude wrote: » An improved bus network will lead to more people opting to commute via bus. How is that not blindingly obvious?
Chiparus wrote: » People who live on Luas lines , still drive to work.
Chiparus wrote: » Bus connects will make commuting by car faster as the cars will not have to share the lane with buses.
Last Stop wrote: » When you take into consideration those who will shift from different modes such as walking + cycling due to the improved network, the simply isn’t capacity to reduce the number of cars and that’s on day one.
Last Stop wrote: » Currently Dublin Bus carries 35,000 during morning peak. Let’s say the breakdown of that is 70% radial on the spines, 20% local/orbital and 10% peak only. So the spines take 80% of this which is 28,000. Therefore the new routes will have a spare capacity of 1,400 on day one or 100 people per spine. If you assume no modal shift and a growth factor of 2%, the corridors will be at full capacity in 3 years... a full 4 years before Busconnects is due to finish.
SortCrude wrote: » That's hilarious. You'll accept people switching from cycling or walking, but not from driving. Don't forget BusConnects will also improve cycling infrastructure.
You're not thinking of this in the right way. If Dublin bus needed to be able to carry 70,000 people during morning peak, the solution would be to ............. double the bus fleet. Current demand is linked to the quality of the network. Improve the quality of the network and you'll get a situation where more buses need to be purchased to deal with the increase in demand.
Last Stop wrote: » I’ve said an average of 30 buses per hour, that’s the maximum capacity. To get an average of 30, a number of corridors are exceeding capacity on day one. These are likely to be the ones with the most growth.
SortCrude wrote: » A very high frequency bus service is greater than 60 buses per hour. Can you provide a source for this 30 bus/hr maximum capacity?
MJohnston wrote: » And they'll have more capacity when there aren't seas of cars blocking up the QBCs. Even a single point of interaction with private traffic can seriously diminish the capacity of a bus route. Most spinal routes pass through the city centre where interactions are at their worst.
